From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 382C413800E for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 20:48:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D04DDE0662; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 20:47:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9020A21C030 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 20:46:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiocik.lan (87-205-57-138.adsl.inetia.pl [87.205.57.138]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 12E491B4006; Thu, 9 Aug 2012 20:46:57 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2012 22:47:38 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: lu_zero@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC Message-ID: <20120809224738.4d6e3e00@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: <50241DCA.8080504@gentoo.org> References: <1344366029.24762.31.camel@TesterTop4> <502377E7.8010803@gentoo.org> <20120809214332.1a49b0a8@pomiocik.lan> <50241DCA.8080504@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.11; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; boundary="Sig_/9N/WFapAifOHHVb=4G77JfG"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 1edbef67-7418-4be1-92f6-85eb4b77912f X-Archives-Hash: caf931dad0ced2e56c7a765e050d31d2 --Sig_/9N/WFapAifOHHVb=4G77JfG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 22:30:02 +0200 Luca Barbato wrote: > On 08/09/2012 09:43 PM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > On Thu, 09 Aug 2012 10:42:15 +0200 > > Luca Barbato wrote: > >=20 > >> Repeat after me: having your first process require anything more > >> than libc is stupid and dangerous. > >=20 > > But you are aware that glibc is probably much, much worse than most > > of those 'stupid and dangerous' libraries, right? >=20 > Then we have a bigger problem, since everything in our system is based > on that. Yes, we do, sir. > >> Once that concept gets accepted then we could discuss about why > >> reinventing shellscript may not be that sound and other less > >> glaring, horrid and appalling design choices. > >=20 > > Yes, exactly. So why does openrc reinvent that horrible shellscript? >=20 > It is not re-invented, in fact we can use any compatible shell. Or anything else what can be spawned for shell. And a lot more what you won't expect. And guess what, people are actually doing crazy things with it because someone forgot to tell them how a init.d script should work. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/9N/WFapAifOHHVb=4G77JfG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQEIAAYFAlAkIeoACgkQfXuS5UK5QB2A1AP+MtMN51R0g+XAvTucwHs1FJLL 1JzOCacakFGviPSq71iUCdh24V3rpMKB1ZpbRPUfCKzjM4YKGclTh4JC/KdgEqcH t67x39QAoz9VQXD9ho31blzrWxIe/wd1V3+ajvdN0J3KoQVIMPPHS9TSH2tEf7vY dUFsBNRmcgvpdtCjUJ8= =Pya8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/9N/WFapAifOHHVb=4G77JfG--