From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCBA013800E for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:14:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF4F821C026; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 559BBE081D for ; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:12:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiocik.lan (77-254-77-13.adsl.inetia.pl [77.254.77.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A75851B400F; Tue, 7 Aug 2012 20:12:50 +0000 (UTC) Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 22:13:21 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: mikemol@gmail.com Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC Message-ID: <20120807221321.164e4757@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: References: <20120807141156.13030.qmail@stuge.se> <20120807182905.0f8c0121@pomiocik.lan> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.11; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; boundary="Sig_/7rs2nWL3i56y+Bwy2YEoNDp"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: f3fc1bfc-c882-4599-8b3d-be69b6a370da X-Archives-Hash: c188821072db4fa3b977c23a42b2cdd5 --Sig_/7rs2nWL3i56y+Bwy2YEoNDp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 13:31:32 -0400 Michael Mol wrote: > On Tue, Aug 7, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny > wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Aug 2012 11:33:59 -0400 > > Sylvain Alain wrote: > > > >> The KDE team seems to work on that too : > >> http://lists.kde.org/?l=3Dkde-core-devel&m=3D134052539215508&w=3D2 > > > > it's actually worth it. > > more user-spread FUD or however you like to call it on the topic > > than I'm not sure if *devs* are actually working on that. I believe > > there's >=20 > Perhaps not official Gentoo devs, but users taking development > initiative to solve a problem in userland. I'm not an official Gentoo > dev, either, but I think it'd be a very bad idea to discourage or > ridicule such initiative. Someone putting in that much effort in light > of all the information already available isn't something that should > be taken lightly! I don't want to offend anyone but let's be honest: people start many initiatives, and they are not always right, no matter how many effort is put. I don't want to discourage it but sometimes I dislike the importunity accompanying it. Users are free to do whatever they want as long as it doesn't harm the rest of users. And I'm afraid that too much enthusiasm over mdev will actually cause a number of users to end up being disappointed that one or another magic requiring udev no longer works. >=20 > > > >> Now I understand why some devs are working hard to make Mdev > >> working with OpenRC. > > >=20 > > different, you could as well disable USE=3Dudev and use regular udev. >=20 > > equivalent to KDE/GNOME/whatever without anything? And if it's no >=20 > > But you are aware that KDE/GNOME/whatever+mdev would be practically >=20 > (My reason for replying...looks like a few chunks of text got lost > here.) Sorry for the confusion caused to you and the others. You need to read it bottom-to-top. I reversed the line order for Sylvain who seems to prefer reading that way.=20 --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/7rs2nWL3i56y+Bwy2YEoNDp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQEIAAYFAlAhduIACgkQfXuS5UK5QB2mnAP/T43g8FRN6lvpG/uX9uncoj7U Et2idvcXDXJY0jiNAkCX/X49J5i1RCbJ67jAAsvsugDT0Ez8jGt29CZEyI3Q8sJj LuNDXJ8pAkmsZ7rVz9Ozafd4t8rl6vm1Ocfza24o47tFjSE120eKuL3OP2lNP/Zi dd1nS3FwZ/rWPY3TvLM= =D2nu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/7rs2nWL3i56y+Bwy2YEoNDp--