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From: Fabian Groffen <grobian@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] systemd.eclass: Patch for new function systemd_get_udevdir()
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 13:56:20 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120806115620.GA10705@gentoo.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGfcS_=ZhduBZHhoreL8e2RbOFoO9fBxRMg0Ld8srTMnhsiahA@mail.gmail.com>

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On 06-08-2012 07:49:48 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 6, 2012 at 6:42 AM, Fabian Groffen <grobian@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > On 06-08-2012 13:37:55 +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> >> > Also, I'm not so sure if this will work correctly for Prefix.
> >>
> >> I'm sure that is easily checked and we will get feedback quickly.
> >
> > I'm sure systemd/udev will never run in (a) Prefix, so perhaps it is
> > more sensical not to pseudo-provide support for it.
> 
> I wouldn't be so quick to make that assumption.  Right now openrc
> doesn't work on Prefix but there is a SoC project to change that.  Why
> wouldn't we assume that somebody will do the same for systemd?
> Obviously the long-term future of systemd/openrc/alternatives is
> unclear now, but that just seems to be all the more reason to keep our
> options open.
> 
> I'm not suggesting that we fully build-in support for systemd under
> Prefix and so on, but rather I'm suggesting that if leaving it open as
> an option now saves us a lot of rework later we should consider it.
> 
> (And yes, I realize that systemd is currently linux-only and why that
> would make any use under Prefix difficult.)

While OpenRC is likely perfectly capable of starting/stopping daemons as
a normal user (with some tweaks), I expect systemd replacing init, to
already have a fair bit of isssues with being just a normal unprivileged
user.  I may be wrong, of course.  However, the notorious reputation of
that piece of software aiming for system-domination doesn't really make
it sound to me like it ever will be a good match for Prefix.


-- 
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level

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  reply	other threads:[~2012-08-06 11:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-08-06 10:00 [gentoo-dev] [RFC] systemd.eclass: Patch for new function systemd_get_udevdir() Samuli Suominen
2012-08-06 10:20 ` Michał Górny
2012-08-06 10:37   ` Samuli Suominen
2012-08-06 10:42     ` Fabian Groffen
2012-08-06 11:02       ` Samuli Suominen
2012-08-06 11:20         ` Fabian Groffen
2012-08-06 11:49       ` Rich Freeman
2012-08-06 11:56         ` Fabian Groffen [this message]
2012-08-06 12:05           ` Rich Freeman
2012-08-06 12:15             ` Michał Górny
2012-08-06 18:16           ` Olivier Crête
2012-08-06 18:28             ` Fabian Groffen
2012-08-06 18:40               ` Olivier Crête
2012-08-06 18:44                 ` Fabian Groffen
2012-08-06 12:10         ` Michał Górny
2012-08-06 11:10   ` Samuli Suominen
2012-08-06 11:44   ` Rich Freeman

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