From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F60213800E for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:25:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E327BE04EC; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:25:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91409E0230 for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:24:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vapier.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C74791B402F for ; Fri, 27 Jul 2012 17:24:48 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] UTF-8 locale by default Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 13:24:48 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.5.0; KDE/4.6.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <3146937.NEprMvEFLe@mephista> <20498.15988.225230.614853@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <501285DC.2020207@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <501285DC.2020207@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart4232141.PFuNYFK1J6"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201207271324.48571.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: c9f70587-8d92-4ee2-967b-4f4ef906555d X-Archives-Hash: e04f188de88abda1f2f0febd2b16dd25 --nextPart4232141.PFuNYFK1J6 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Friday 27 July 2012 08:13:16 Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB=85n w= rote: > Ulrich Mueller schrieb: > > As I had pointed out before [1], changing from POSIX to an en_US > > locale will have undesirable side effects, like commas as thousands > > separators in numbers (because of LC_NUMERIC). Also the defaults of > > en_US for LC_MEASUREMENT and LC_PAPER are only useful in the U.S. > >=20 > > So if we change the default (but I still don't see the need), we > >=20 > > should go for a less intrusive setting like: > > LANG=3D"POSIX" > > LC_CTYPE=3D"en_US.utf8" >=20 > This would be better than LANG=3D"en_US.utf8" but I would still prefer not > to have any country/region attached to the locale. The C.UTF-8 locale > which Debian uses for this purpose (a UTF-8 locale without side effects) > appears more suitable to me. yes, and i'm waiting on the POSIX group to formalize C.UTF-8. that's the o= nly=20 real option in my mind for making unicode the default. any other=20 amalgamations of various locales is ugly as sin. =2Dmike --nextPart4232141.PFuNYFK1J6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJQEs7gAAoJEEFjO5/oN/WBILMQAIZZjkW8WkDOx+Wx0h0dLvYL 6Nume9w+L6opyihRsD0tbMxRLR7likW/5ryCFBllxdJAP1hFbyQ7L9KLvGrTRwZB vf/NlFVP4oALCqMNHorR7f89E3qXS1prz2fjJRDLbUmyPdO8Rl0yJRF2blM6Vbbx 8luSFyQDbZ2iW2cCaYhxRRBltAdEpN0KCxZkunmz4uphrrPf5G3uLnu6gJgIM8QQ gmhD++Cj/mMVZ0uNQxEcp0AbdCEEqkREZUw3xMTiwsxvnspttcMkT8COX2olakZk aP0M5EEpOrsIiFYACTfPUzlUYLrmzY+7ZSvku3Ihsl3erW1QvsY1zTVciTw5Fl+R nwuo14DTSyAsltgEI7Ex8PcyZ9fVrg/dStvizXOdWOyCSOo6Xfu1OxdBoolFKlJ5 IjxNWklXRW76JuFya8fb7ifxuKmOQ74dOU7WAktgefyq79gDDRfQgCnqPb4AGB6D 2ffET78HcvY87yh+E2Z2rzTD01gbCW3uIMhhWCgmj3VvJtjmIbkNz2E7XdC3OfzO K26Om+AhB94OJzYnJGz0zucgzVcAXwNo/yggXRZjIs1UhU1xgkn/3geq4D9hYpna wTia1fFT6pvlMAgVh9HvHcF1Hd9pdM7/9atY7N8T9iXIovlAodXWr9LOLK89TvqZ LOcAVV8kmnShJPX976ob =Su3k -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart4232141.PFuNYFK1J6--