From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SqYtE-0003uQ-0F for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:10:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98B9CE0586 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2012 00:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E21E0478 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 22:34:10 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgwKAG6Zu09Ld+ui/2dsb2JhbABEsnYDgRiBCIIVAQEEAScTHCgLCzQSFCU3iAkFC7l6BIsIWoFEgjxiA40+h1yFX4g6gViDBQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="193375908" Received: from 75-119-235-162.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO waltdnes.org) ([75.119.235.162]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with SMTP; 15 Jul 2012 18:34:09 -0400 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:34:01 -0400 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 18:34:01 -0400 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: udev <-> mdev Message-ID: <20120715223401.GA11063@waltdnes.org> References: <20120711091510.52b44e08@pomiocik.lan> <4FFD7949.4000204@gentoo.org> <20120712034036.GA2439@waltdnes.org> <4FFED31D.9010505@gentoo.org> <20120712200741.GB3723@waltdnes.org> <20120712222931.GA3044@linux1> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 70603c61-84a8-4d35-8c28-12939e8c8ee1 X-Archives-Hash: 6ef792e96b1785d7d148b7983c8ac5f5 On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 05:58:25AM +0000, Duncan wrote > They're seriously thinking about (and may be planning on) removing > that option from the kernel entirely, to keep people configuring > their first kernels from getting themselves in trouble, but of > course that's now part of the kernel/userspace interface, so it > isn't allowed to just disappear like kernel/kernel interfaces can. A couple of points... 1) Your "argument" applies to just about anything in the kernel configuration process. If you don't follow instructions, the kernel will encounter anything from partial loss of functionality to possibly failing to boot at all. I'm a big boy. If I foul up, I'll admit that I goofed. 2) Full disclosure; I do have an interest in retaining the hotplug pointer mechanism. I have mdev set up on my machines as per https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev Going one step further, I have auto(un)mount working on my machines as per https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev/Automount_USB and https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev/Automount_USB/automount This has been working OK for me for a few weeks, and I've asked others to test on their machines. I'll still consider it beta (Work In Progress) until other people confirm it works for them. Once that's done, my next project might be "custom mdev rules", similar to "custom udev rules". -- Walter Dnes