From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SpRu0-0001vy-OL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:30:29 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55389E05ED; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:30:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CE50E058E for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 22:29:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbup19 with SMTP id up19so4039975obb.40 for ; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:29:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=EwN5wk2nJzuj6p0qFEJyEBGgcWglCvy8R24aMVC+s4g=; b=mJKFh6DcHHywk13m4QdIiKJEysKauOvq25wiaqDGq5sGEy+3T1AP+i9z5oCrrXV1Kg SJ80DshrzhRDDdJA4cEvwkuc8n2WVttyNtD6bnCEP7s2MsRsrQpc9QlUT7bRHbenjrGE pj6ZXyncR5DTm6bCEnnRuF+4tD6PW9Vw3/HtC3n5ANr0r97V4SsvlFj7u1UAwQBRw7P7 WN9WVO/MN55FpaI4cOfnR436WT4gmBBkPxsJGnGLsoMPEar3nLn5gZhNqijAD5m47kSl yDQbQEd27NJJs4Jf67Ft65oAhgondh0YXkUatjmtzveq/YBkCT9pQYr3CaEMlRuNiVMP 1YMQ== Received: by 10.60.172.143 with SMTP id bc15mr56898766oec.73.1342132173724; Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-77-158.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.77.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id pj4sm5026183obb.20.2012.07.12.15.29.32 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 12 Jul 2012 15:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:29:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:29:31 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] udev <-> mdev Message-ID: <20120712222931.GA3044@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <4FFC813B.7090501@gentoo.org> <20120711091510.52b44e08@pomiocik.lan> <4FFD7949.4000204@gentoo.org> <20120712034036.GA2439@waltdnes.org> <4FFED31D.9010505@gentoo.org> <20120712200741.GB3723@waltdnes.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120712200741.GB3723@waltdnes.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 60c3c039-4c7b-4eea-8f2e-d8d98358c7e5 X-Archives-Hash: 3df66360460494e3e4256e7051246acf --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 04:07:41PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 09:37:33AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote >=20 > First a disclaimer... I am not a C programmer, let alone a developer. > I feel like I've been dragged into this kicking and screaming in order > to save the Gentoo that I remember from a few years ago. >=20 > > Out of curiosity, since mdev is (i assume) more than complete enough > > to handle mounting, would it be possible to initially start with mdev > > and then hand over control to udev (if there was a need for udev, that > > is) , to avoid initramfs with separate /usr ? >=20 > I think that's exactly how initramfs itself works. You might be able > to use an initrd instead of initramfs. See Zac Medico's posting at... > http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_20749880f5bc5feda141488498729fe= 8.xml > That was the clue that got me started on replacing udev with mdev. initrd is deprecated and has been for a long time; you should use initramfs. > Once you have psuedo-filesystems and partitions mounted, you need to > shut down mdev and start up udev. And make sure that > /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug points to udev. If you are using udev, /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug should be empty; do not point this to udev. Thanks, William --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk//T8sACgkQblQW9DDEZThCMACeLGmpd6IiQ3T4p6jQNUhelTxK fjEAmwcbw2Wdtu9r3VxrHU78T7W31oUy =IfNE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dDRMvlgZJXvWKvBx--