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From: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] udev <-> mdev
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 17:29:31 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120712222931.GA3044@linux1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120712200741.GB3723@waltdnes.org>

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Hi all,

On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 04:07:41PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 09:37:33AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote
> 
>   First a disclaimer... I am not a C programmer, let alone a developer.
> I feel like I've been dragged into this kicking and screaming in order
> to save the Gentoo that I remember from a few years ago.
> 
> > Out of curiosity, since mdev is (i assume) more than complete enough
> > to handle mounting, would it be possible to initially start with mdev
> > and then hand over control to udev (if there was a need for udev, that
> > is) , to avoid initramfs with separate /usr ?
> 
>   I think that's exactly how initramfs itself works.  You might be able
> to use an initrd instead of initramfs.  See Zac Medico's posting at...
> http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_20749880f5bc5feda141488498729fe8.xml
> That was the clue that got me started on replacing udev with mdev.

initrd is deprecated and has been for a long time; you should use
initramfs.

>   Once you have psuedo-filesystems and partitions mounted, you need to
> shut down mdev and start up udev.  And make sure that
> /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug points to udev.

If you are using udev, /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug should be empty; do not
point this to udev.

Thanks,

William


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  reply	other threads:[~2012-07-12 22:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 92+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-10 15:18 [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev Michał Górny
2012-07-10 16:54 ` Alexis Ballier
2012-07-10 17:57   ` Michał Górny
2012-07-10 18:15     ` William Hubbs
2012-07-10 19:23 ` Thomas Sachau
2012-07-11  4:51   ` Ben de Groot
2012-07-11  6:34     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-07-11  7:15     ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2012-07-11  8:27       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-07-11  8:33         ` Michał Górny
2012-07-11 10:40         ` Rich Freeman
2012-07-11 13:02           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-07-11 13:49             ` Michael Mol
2012-07-11 14:06               ` Rich Freeman
2012-07-11 14:26                 ` Michael Mol
2012-07-12  3:40               ` Walter Dnes
2012-07-12 13:37                 ` [gentoo-dev] udev <-> mdev Ian Stakenvicius
2012-07-12 20:07                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-07-12 22:29                     ` William Hubbs [this message]
2012-07-13  5:58                       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-07-13 20:04                         ` Walter Dnes
2012-07-13 20:12                           ` Richard Yao
2012-07-13 22:49                             ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-07-14  0:13                               ` Walter Dnes
2012-07-14  0:36                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-07-14  0:40                                 ` Michael Mol
2012-07-14  1:10                                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-07-14  1:15                                     ` Michael Mol
2012-07-14  1:21                                     ` Olivier Crête
2012-07-14  1:29                                       ` Rich Freeman
2012-07-29 11:31                                       ` Luca Barbato
2012-07-14  0:41                                 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-07-14  1:22                                   ` Walter Dnes
2012-07-14  1:28                                     ` Michael Mol
2012-07-14  2:32                                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-07-14  2:34                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-07-29 11:38                                           ` Luca Barbato
2012-07-30 16:44                                             ` Walter Dnes
2012-07-14  3:13                                 ` William Hubbs
2012-07-14  5:35                                   ` Sylvain Alain
2012-07-14  6:30                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-07-14 21:02                                       ` Peter Stuge
2012-07-14 21:29                                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-07-14 21:52                                           ` Peter Stuge
2012-07-14 23:38                                           ` Duncan
2012-07-14 23:57                                             ` Rich Freeman
2012-07-15  1:02                                               ` Duncan
2012-07-15 12:30                                                 ` Rich Freeman
2012-07-15 18:25                                                   ` Duncan
2012-07-15 18:48                                                     ` Rich Freeman
2012-07-16  0:30                                                       ` Duncan
2012-07-16  0:57                                                         ` Michael Mol
2012-07-16  8:40                                                           ` Duncan
2012-07-16  9:22                                                             ` Peter Stuge
2012-07-16  1:00                                                         ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-07-16 13:53                                                           ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-07-16 17:52                                                             ` Duncan
2012-07-16  7:30                                   ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-07-14  6:13                                 ` Graham Murray
2012-07-14 11:33                                   ` Duncan
2012-07-15 22:34                         ` Walter Dnes
2012-07-11 14:09   ` [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev Michał Górny
2012-07-11 14:35     ` Rich Freeman
2012-07-11 14:52       ` Michał Górny
2012-07-11 15:05         ` Rich Freeman
2012-07-11 18:26     ` Thomas Sachau
2012-07-11 19:27       ` Mike Gilbert
2012-07-11 19:54         ` William Hubbs
2012-07-11 20:33           ` Mike Gilbert
2012-07-11 20:54             ` William Hubbs
2012-07-12 17:16             ` vivo75
2012-07-11 21:04         ` Michał Górny
2012-07-26 21:44           ` Peter Alfredsen
2012-07-26 22:08             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-07-27  2:37               ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-07-27  2:49                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-07-27 15:50                   ` William Hubbs
2012-07-28 16:51                 ` Roy Bamford
2012-07-29  0:14                   ` Duncan
2012-07-29  1:01                     ` Peter Stuge
2012-07-10 19:24 ` [gentoo-dev] " William Hubbs
2012-08-10  7:59   ` Michał Górny
2012-08-10 17:33     ` Thomas Sachau
2012-08-10 18:13       ` Michał Górny
2012-08-10 20:23         ` Thomas Sachau
2012-08-11 18:11           ` Peter Alfredsen
2012-08-11 18:29             ` Michał Górny
2012-08-11 18:39               ` Peter Alfredsen
2012-07-11  8:03 ` Samuli Suominen
2012-07-11  8:56   ` Diego Elio Pettenò
2012-07-11  8:31 ` Samuli Suominen
2012-07-11 14:04   ` Michał Górny

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