From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Sor9e-00088D-Vj for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 07:16:11 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6873EE0710; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 07:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3D4E06F7 for ; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 07:15:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiocik.lan (178-37-171-8.adsl.inetia.pl [178.37.171.8]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5F27F1B4015; Wed, 11 Jul 2012 07:15:13 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 09:15:10 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: yngwin@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: virtual/libudev Message-ID: <20120711091510.52b44e08@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: References: <20120710171800.493a7c4c@pomiocik.lan> <4FFC813B.7090501@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; boundary="Sig_/mH=3RBw_hbn4XbwvVMDQeS_"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: df925d04-e605-488b-8767-f3a82f6f22e8 X-Archives-Hash: cb3db6ee3401be73e09824e39858a200 --Sig_/mH=3RBw_hbn4XbwvVMDQeS_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 12:51:50 +0800 Ben de Groot wrote: > On 11 July 2012 03:23, Thomas Sachau wrote: > > Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny schrieb: > >> Hello, all. > >> > >> Since nowadays udev is bundled within systemd, we start having two > >> libudev providers: >=3Dsys-apps/systemd-185 and sys-fs/udev. Making > >> the long story short, I would like to introduce a virtual for > >> libudev which would pull in either of those two. > >> [...] > >> What are you thoughts? > > > > As discussed on IRC, there is still no consensus for installing the > > udev files with systemd, which is the beginning for the block and > > the virtual. So we should first sort that point out, before we even > > start to think about an ebuild for an udev virtual. > > > > So for now: A clear no, i am against adding a virtual/libudev > > ebuild. >=20 > Me too. >=20 > When upstream moved the udev sources to the systemd repo, they > promised that udev would continue to be able to be used separately > from systemd. We should hold them to that promise. >=20 > If they break their promise (as it seems they are bent on doing), > then we should go ahead with the fork as discussed earlier. I'm sure > other distros such as Debian and Slackware would be happy to > join us in that effort. If we fork, then I would expect systemd to actually require its own udev which means that systemd would need to build it anyway. What's the point? --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/mH=3RBw_hbn4XbwvVMDQeS_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQEIAAYFAk/9KAMACgkQfXuS5UK5QB1EegQAkqYnc/sbw75NXWfhk3f8L8nB Lns+uA03Di5+/1REoTDfyY9DlOlmFAIR9Ip45DAFBmEbedwA9TEN5jwHwuRqoOlB TUTDgj0Y8o926kC/zVRuHK4LGJMeblbSe14THZwzGhXVHNgN5QZF9U02GTlHC2Pa 5WSzfwgB+aqfjonC1J8= =mdji -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/mH=3RBw_hbn4XbwvVMDQeS_--