From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SiU9I-0004ps-7T for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 17:29:28 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DAFF1E0920; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 17:29:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f53.google.com (mail-wg0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A46EE0CD7 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 17:28:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbfm10 with SMTP id fm10so2486707wgb.10 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 10:28:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; bh=ZoaonSTU9rC/0ZmfL7jupZr5KVb7OIFLROzZA68ZWkc=; b=kFMWV1uYEZi6y1KNCoGAsSlBcJb4MCohPLHxYcHawMvS7JRzrjCVMc+bbrPqdR6pbL ReGymJkhHWsKsptgIh9u8D3e96uoBhn/GmqPxH014tVAM0oYrVxge6ArRMg/Z/bq+fNa HyXsSSrJmIUx2jgI7ny6BR32MovmU7A968rY9vv+77Trn5+0/jBWtdnM0H3j6Ju7kqel vHpQrlxjz5LBAEVoyzXlgyZQIAz2OA1m4sDNyElGN1f9uWPiTve7plvIYS4DCshan2XT fbFk5qpHIycjoaZl5KPKHR6PhkfrFZ6s81sNndvEQ3eVzqi9cH2GK0E2Tk3flJHp1nqV +Juw== Received: by 10.180.94.4 with SMTP id cy4mr13289282wib.2.1340472514534; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 10:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpc13-broo7-2-0-cust130.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com. [82.9.16.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fm1sm4844975wib.10.2012.06.23.10.28.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 23 Jun 2012 10:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 18:24:44 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: PROPERTIES=funky-slots Message-ID: <20120623182444.5413a888@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20120623142143.631d7ebf@googlemail.com> <4FE5EB23.5040600@gentoo.org> <20120623171704.4f24cba6@googlemail.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/Fm++c..um2fh4ZitUC5qmpI"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 25e09f9c-a354-4468-86b8-c6a795a73523 X-Archives-Hash: fd960b8394669b46171dc4074cc6b937 --Sig_/Fm++c..um2fh4ZitUC5qmpI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 10:16:42 -0700 Alec Warner wrote: > I don't think the documentation forbids what these developers are > doing. http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/handbook/handbook.xml?part=3D2&chap=3D1 "This means that counting goes as follows: 1.0 (initial version), 1.0-r1, 1.0-r2, etc." It's not illegal, but it's also not in line with how versions and slots have interacted up until now. > I think you implemented a nice heuristic for your users in your > resolver that used to work because slots had a typical set of users > cases and the heuristic performed well in those cases. >=20 > Now people are occasionally using slots in a different way and your > heuristic penalizes those cases. That sucks, but you might have to > actually change your resolver because I don't think 'funky-slots' > properties is going to garner much adoption. You mean, instead of implementing trivial marking, which takes developers a few seconds, you want to screw over users? I think that says a lot about Gentoo's attitude... --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/Fm++c..um2fh4ZitUC5qmpI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk/l+98ACgkQ96zL6DUtXhHCjQCgpROyb/txA9G0omyW0CeK3YLA dEsAoKKCPvJt6Voze7QvD8fdAsOy/sWD =oRjr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/Fm++c..um2fh4ZitUC5qmpI--