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From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: My wishlist for EAPI 5
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:44:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120623114432.3e40b26c@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan.2012.06.23.10.37.38@cox.net>

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On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 10:37:38 +0000 (UTC)
Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote:
> 1) Fact: Unfortunately, your method of argument, Ciaran, doesn't
> endear you to a number of devs.  Some may have the impulse to reject
> an argument simply because it comes from you.

Perhaps Gentoo should be doing more to correct the attitudes of those
developers, then.

> 2) PMS is supposed to be about specifying things well enough that all 
> three PMs can implement compatible ebuild/eclass/etc interpretation
> and execution.

Not exactly. It's about making sure ebuild developers know what they
can rely upon from a package mangler.

> 3) Given the above, it would be of /great/ benefit to your argument
> if either Zac or Brian (or preferably both) stepped up from time to
> time and said yes, this is really an issue.

They already have. For example:

http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_86b67d8ab51a24922a3d3be75d10f42b.xml

> And if you /can/ get those statements, why are we still going round
> and round with all this?

That's a very good question. Why are people still blaming the PMS team
for the lack of magical appearance of flying unicorns rather than
making their case for the introduction of a horse?

-- 
Ciaran McCreesh

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-06-23 10:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-06-20 20:25 [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5 Richard Yao
2012-06-20 20:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:50   ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 20:54     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:02       ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 21:10         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:05       ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 21:12         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:34           ` Richard Yao
2012-06-21  8:29     ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-06-21  9:23       ` Richard Yao
2012-06-22  0:38       ` Richard Yao
2012-06-22  5:30         ` Duncan
2012-06-22  5:55         ` Michał Górny
2012-06-22  6:20         ` Ben de Groot
2012-06-20 21:43   ` [gentoo-dev] " Justin
2012-06-21  6:08     ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21  7:00       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21  7:25         ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21  7:39           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23  7:53             ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23  9:38               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23  9:53                 ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 10:24                   ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:30                     ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:31                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:05                       ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 11:14                         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:38                           ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 11:37                             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:52                               ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 11:59                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:16                                   ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 12:21                                     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:11                               ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 12:16                                 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:33                                   ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:37                 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-06-23 10:43                   ` Duncan
2012-06-23 10:44                   ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2012-06-23 11:12                     ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-23 23:09                       ` Duncan
2012-06-21  9:27           ` [gentoo-dev] " Alec Warner
2012-06-21 12:04             ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-23  8:19             ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 11:15           ` Patrick Lauer
2012-06-21 11:37             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23  8:01             ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 12:11         ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 12:30           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 13:13             ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 13:20               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 20:26                 ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 22:46                   ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-29  5:27           ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-29  5:29         ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-21  6:41     ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21  7:24       ` justin
2012-06-21 12:14         ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 12:38           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:39 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-06-20 20:41   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:51   ` Richard Yao
2012-06-29  5:20   ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-20 20:52 ` Luca Barbato
2012-06-20 21:33 ` Alec Warner
2012-06-21  9:42   ` Ben de Groot
2012-06-29  5:25 ` Mike Frysinger

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