From: Ciaran McCreesh <ciaran.mccreesh@googlemail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:31:25 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120623113125.656d26c4@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1340447072.5979.33.camel@belkin4>
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On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:24:32 +0200
Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> As Peter explains, I think it is now clear enough what I was demanding
> (about clarifying what is needed to get things in next EAPI to prevent
> issues like Tommy is suffering to get multilib stuff done), but I star
> to think Ciaran thinks it's easier to simply wear a blindfold on to
> keep thinking all what he says cannot be corrected at all, neither
> improved and others must follow his instructions blindly
Oh come on. You're just shooting the messenger. You don't like being
told that if you want something, someone needs to do the work, and you
can't just say "I want a flying unicorn!" and expect it to happen.
I'm not the only one saying it, either. I point you to this, for
example:
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/msg_86b67d8ab51a24922a3d3be75d10f42b.xml
> Ciaran, simply think that, if PMS team agrees with a doc explaining
> what needs to be provided and the procedure, you will also save time
> and not need to follow this tedious discussions, all parts will
> benefit for sure.
The procedure is not the important part. The important part is finding
someone who can do enough of the work that the PMS team can understand
your proposal and polish off the rough edges. The work that needs to be
done for that is very much a case by case thing, and it's not just a
simple list of steps that anyone can follow blindly. The features
you're asking for that aren't magically appearing are hard.
I'll remind you that for "big" features, the GLEP process is already
documented.
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Ciaran McCreesh
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Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-20 20:25 [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5 Richard Yao
2012-06-20 20:35 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:50 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 20:54 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:02 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 21:10 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:05 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-20 21:12 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 21:34 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-21 8:29 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-06-21 9:23 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-22 0:38 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-22 5:30 ` Duncan
2012-06-22 5:55 ` Michał Górny
2012-06-22 6:20 ` Ben de Groot
2012-06-20 21:43 ` [gentoo-dev] " Justin
2012-06-21 6:08 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 7:00 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 7:25 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 7:39 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 7:53 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 9:38 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 9:53 ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 10:24 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:30 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:31 ` Ciaran McCreesh [this message]
2012-06-23 11:05 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 11:14 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:38 ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 11:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:52 ` Peter Stuge
2012-06-23 11:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:16 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 12:21 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:11 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 12:16 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 12:33 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-23 10:37 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-06-23 10:43 ` Duncan
2012-06-23 10:44 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 11:12 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-23 23:09 ` Duncan
2012-06-21 9:27 ` [gentoo-dev] " Alec Warner
2012-06-21 12:04 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-23 8:19 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 11:15 ` Patrick Lauer
2012-06-21 11:37 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-23 8:01 ` Pacho Ramos
2012-06-21 12:11 ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 12:30 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 13:13 ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 13:20 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 20:26 ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 22:46 ` Rich Freeman
2012-06-29 5:27 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-29 5:29 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-21 6:41 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-21 7:24 ` justin
2012-06-21 12:14 ` Homer Parker
2012-06-21 12:38 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:39 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-06-20 20:41 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-06-20 20:51 ` Richard Yao
2012-06-29 5:20 ` Mike Frysinger
2012-06-20 20:52 ` Luca Barbato
2012-06-20 21:33 ` Alec Warner
2012-06-21 9:42 ` Ben de Groot
2012-06-29 5:25 ` Mike Frysinger
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