From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SiN37-0005i2-0k for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 09:54:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF371E058A; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 09:54:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from foo.stuge.se (foo.stuge.se [212.116.89.98]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 33439E0A6C for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2012 09:53:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail 25424 invoked by uid 501); 23 Jun 2012 09:53:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20120623095326.25423.qmail@stuge.se> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:53:26 +0200 From: Peter Stuge To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5 Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <4FE231BA.6020404@gentoo.org> <20120620213518.4baf8150@googlemail.com> <4FE24408.40302@gentoo.org> <1340258936.2470.5.camel@belkin4> <20120621080039.0724cf8d@googlemail.com> <1340263510.2470.18.camel@belkin4> <20120621083945.345d661a@googlemail.com> <1340438017.5979.11.camel@belkin4> <20120623103833.6b9cb91e@googlemail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ivHc2SZskddb40s2" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120623103833.6b9cb91e@googlemail.com> X-Archives-Salt: 16fb48ad-f193-4e1b-8dae-7b20bd86637d X-Archives-Hash: 0c8103a5bbf8a5a0affcb8fbc5942336 --ivHc2SZskddb40s2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > What is hurting is people demanding features without specifying what > the problem is Part of enabling progress is to show a strong will to communicate, with the goal of extracting common understanding from discussion. In any project based on volunteer effort you must show that you too are interested in giving, for anyone to give you anything. When it's not obvious that you want to receive - to the point where you drive the discussion (the horror!) in order to arrive at that point of common understanding - then people will be upset and look down on you, because dealing with you leaves too sour a taste behind. //Peter --ivHc2SZskddb40s2 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFP5ZIWhR3Q0dhIfEgRAptFAJ4u0o0wf/mrpCUnPFiGdfPg4Jy1pgCgxczr gUdWbj9cfrMuixbTTKXH+0s= =6d7e -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ivHc2SZskddb40s2--