From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Shb9C-00061K-JL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 06:45:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2CF7AE08A4; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 06:45:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f53.google.com (mail-wg0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72F51E07D8 for ; Thu, 21 Jun 2012 06:44:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wgbfm10 with SMTP id fm10so234727wgb.10 for ; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:44:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; bh=0G6Zsgp1mbECLOmZunf6gw9/5L8iox+cTRRD+cNFOSM=; b=e/npCXpfqFXa0HsHPl4aw9ICgXnSX9sVw2tMRdgWLgAaqhVqwI+m2T4KoZMG/rAIpC UzEhZVMJ5p+/YHNJAd/P5YVszrk3VZJkH4UWn2IRq+iX10KqJKNSBo+fYdpMkYy54Wi8 oVUax6FZxh0ZQWYbTr9FJyrApOqckS7OxZmjMfit4XAN+BhK9Tjq4BzFFrniaR+bKUVI Y9lKfjOFb/Ct/Nl7N4KEUgzUZZzMBWMbECiSXCiSHUgCV9aGhgSmWBQVNxDej4KCIIZ5 8gakRC2CFxgjPkdMwDFvkxZ4zsrLInx8d0QVj1vkDLirIagn5BJy1XO88pB/xHGjJtbU uWXg== Received: by 10.180.78.233 with SMTP id e9mr17495986wix.5.1340261096570; Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:44:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpc13-broo7-2-0-cust130.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com. [82.9.16.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ch9sm85112194wib.8.2012.06.20.23.44.55 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:44:55 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 07:41:05 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] My wishlist for EAPI 5 Message-ID: <20120621074105.18336f59@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4FE24408.40302@gentoo.org> References: <4FE231BA.6020404@gentoo.org> <20120620213518.4baf8150@googlemail.com> <4FE24408.40302@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/UIj/a._d0nqR1zv+WOQ66sL"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 933962ae-22a1-4cf6-bcfa-e5a8056ca974 X-Archives-Hash: 52997e3297f0aaf27ea0562642caf404 --Sig_/UIj/a._d0nqR1zv+WOQ66sL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 23:43:36 +0200 Justin wrote: > On 20.06.2012 22:35, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 16:25:30 -0400 > > Richard Yao wrote: > >> Multilib (and/or multiarch) support > >> The current binaries cause a great deal of pain, > >> particularly when a user does not want to upgrade something. I had > >> this problem with WINE and glibc because I wanted to avoid the > >> reverse memcpy() fiasco on my systems. This situation would have > >> been avoided entirely if the package manager supported multilib. > >=20 > > This one's unlikely to happen unless someone's prepared to put in > > the work. >=20 > Tommy worked a lot on this and he asked for help to bring his > proposal/spec/glep into shape. > We are all aware what this is all about and know that anybody who is > using multilib would benefit. > Can't you simply work with him together to get it into what you expect > it to be instead of pointing out that it isn't? In order to do that, it would have to get to the stage where I understood exactly what changes are needed and why. I'm not convinced *anyone* understands that yet. Writing PMS patches, at least to the level that we can review them, is only difficult if you don't know what you want changed or why. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/UIj/a._d0nqR1zv+WOQ66sL Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk/iwgYACgkQ96zL6DUtXhH2ygCgumJUbS42Ic331MJJ7IUntU09 DTEAoJKKOCHDYhPWT0Tmt5V/2wBBoag1 =gx4W -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/UIj/a._d0nqR1zv+WOQ66sL--