From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SfVf5-0003iz-Cm for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:30:01 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C1F28E07C0; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:29:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.182]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBE0421C02A for ; Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:28:07 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AgwKAG6Zu09FpY2o/2dsb2JhbABEsnYDgRiBCIIVAQEEATocKAsLNBIUJRABJogJBboJiwhagUSCPGIDjT6HXIVfiDqBWIMF X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="191476036" Received: from 69-165-141-168.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO waltdnes.org) ([69.165.141.168]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with SMTP; 15 Jun 2012 08:28:06 -0400 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:28:00 -0400 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 08:28:00 -0400 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: UEFI secure boot and Gentoo Message-ID: <20120615122800.GB22231@waltdnes.org> References: <20120615042810.GA9480@kroah.com> <4FDAEA24.3010303@binarywings.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4FDAEA24.3010303@binarywings.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: fb147a9e-a03e-4447-a814-ccbe6f1d03fd X-Archives-Hash: 1e726d4ccb9c3d89b6c8f344ca58a89e On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 09:54:12AM +0200, Florian Philipp wrote > I guess anti-trust is not an issue since MS is not even close to having > a monopoly in ARM. Will you be able to get an ARM machine without their UEFI? If MS ever gets huge in the ARM arena, and 95% of ARM cpus go into Windows machines, how many companies will make cpus for the remaining 5%. Remember how MS strongarmed OEMs into a "Windows tax"? -- Walter Dnes