[gentoo-dev] rfc: OpenRC Networking Scripts

[gentoo-dev] rfc: OpenRC Networking Scripts

[William Hubbs]

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All,

I realize this has been discussed and there are definite opinions about
which method works well. So, I want to take a different approach.

Is there any interest in documenting and supporting newnet along side
oldnet as opposed to killing newnet?

Newnet would consist of the "network" init script to set up your
loopback interface along with something like dhcpcd, networkmanager,
or wicd (and wpa_supplicant for wireless interfaces) running in
standalone mode to manage your other interfaces.

My understanding of the way newnet works is that the big advantage would
come for workstations that have a simple network setup and where users
would want hotplugged interfaces to just work.

Any thoughts?

William


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Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: OpenRC Networking Scripts

[Ian Stakenvicius]

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On 26/05/12 03:40 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> All,
> 
> I realize this has been discussed and there are definite opinions
> about which method works well. So, I want to take a different
> approach.
> 
> Is there any interest in documenting and supporting newnet along
> side oldnet as opposed to killing newnet?
> 
> Newnet would consist of the "network" init script to set up your 
> loopback interface along with something like dhcpcd,
> networkmanager, or wicd (and wpa_supplicant for wireless
> interfaces) running in standalone mode to manage your other
> interfaces.
> 
> My understanding of the way newnet works is that the big advantage
> would come for workstations that have a simple network setup and
> where users would want hotplugged interfaces to just work.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> William
> 


Just want to point out that my hotplugged interfaces work great with
oldnet.
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Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: OpenRC Networking Scripts

[William Hubbs]

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On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:49:07AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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> On 26/05/12 03:40 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
> > All,
> > 
> > I realize this has been discussed and there are definite opinions
> > about which method works well. So, I want to take a different
> > approach.
> > 
> > Is there any interest in documenting and supporting newnet along
> > side oldnet as opposed to killing newnet?
> > 
> > Newnet would consist of the "network" init script to set up your 
> > loopback interface along with something like dhcpcd,
> > networkmanager, or wicd (and wpa_supplicant for wireless
> > interfaces) running in standalone mode to manage your other
> > interfaces.
> > 
> > My understanding of the way newnet works is that the big advantage
> > would come for workstations that have a simple network setup and
> > where users would want hotplugged interfaces to just work.
> > 
> > Any thoughts?
> > 
> > William
> > 
> 
> 
> Just want to point out that my hotplugged interfaces work great with
> oldnet.

Actually they don't, because we don't make or remove the net.* symlinks
in /etc/init.d for the hotplugged interfaces when the interfaces are
added or removed.

William


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Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: OpenRC Networking Scripts

[Ian Stakenvicius]

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On 27/05/12 10:56 AM, William Hubbs wrote:
> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:49:07AM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote:
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>> On 26/05/12 03:40 PM, William Hubbs wrote:
>>> All,
>>> 
>>> I realize this has been discussed and there are definite
>>> opinions about which method works well. So, I want to take a
>>> different approach.
>>> 
>>> Is there any interest in documenting and supporting newnet
>>> along side oldnet as opposed to killing newnet?
>>> 
>>> Newnet would consist of the "network" init script to set up
>>> your loopback interface along with something like dhcpcd, 
>>> networkmanager, or wicd (and wpa_supplicant for wireless 
>>> interfaces) running in standalone mode to manage your other 
>>> interfaces.
>>> 
>>> My understanding of the way newnet works is that the big
>>> advantage would come for workstations that have a simple
>>> network setup and where users would want hotplugged interfaces
>>> to just work.
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts?
>>> 
>>> William
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Just want to point out that my hotplugged interfaces work great
>> with oldnet.
> 
> Actually they don't, because we don't make or remove the net.*
> symlinks in /etc/init.d for the hotplugged interfaces when the
> interfaces are added or removed.
> 
> William
> 

Although yes this is true, when I did my install I just made symlinks
for net.eth{0,1,2,3} and net.wlan{0,1}.  Once they are there, usage is
straight-forward and the iface scripts that I don't hotplug are never
started so there isn't any issue with them being there (on my systems
I don't specify all devices need to be up for 'net' to be up).

Although, as rumour has it udev is dropping the persistent-*.rules
soon so it might become difficult for me to configure my various
net.*'s in a consistent way.  But that's a side issue that'll affect
more than just hotplugging I expect.

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