From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1STOW1-0006zn-6h for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 13 May 2012 02:26:33 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DC737E087D; Sun, 13 May 2012 02:26:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ironport-out.teksavvy.com (ironport-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.143.162]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AA1E080B for ; Sun, 13 May 2012 02:25:27 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApUIACxOgk9sr+d5/2dsb2JhbABDuCMDgQyBCIIJAQEEATocKAsLNBIUJTeICQULtieLYYFVgkFjBI1vh3yGAohYgV2DAw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,391,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="179871925" Received: from 108-175-231-121.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO waltdnes.org) ([108.175.231.121]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with SMTP; 12 May 2012 22:25:25 -0400 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 12 May 2012 22:24:41 -0400 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Sat, 12 May 2012 22:24:41 -0400 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012] Message-ID: <20120513022441.GB1358@waltdnes.org> References: <20120423012540.GA2130@waltdnes.org> <20120505010529.GD22763@kroah.com> <20120509183203.GA27545@kroah.com> <4FAC1D16.9080301@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: c35d8450-93e1-41f3-9af8-54f24f16f5b6 X-Archives-Hash: 31cf64fe0526da3e3037e28661204492 On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:59:22AM +0000, Duncan wrote > It may very well be that a fork is thus required. I guess we wait and > see. But I don't see the kde folks being willingly subsumed into a > gnomeos black hole, and time and again, floss history has demonstrated > that when there's an immediate need, forks do occur. Both gnome and kde > have their forks in recent history, xorg is a fork, there's the glibc and > gcc history, etc. If integration gets too close, a fork /will/ happen. There already is a lightweight udev implementation ("mdev") included in busybox. Given busybox's philisophy and goals, we can be certain that mdev will remain lightweight. I'm not a programmer or developer, but I was annoyed enough to start what became https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Mdev BTW, there is a sort of "udev rules" equivalant. See http://git.busybox.net/busybox/plain/docs/mdev.txt -- Walter Dnes