From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SSFVf-00017i-Bl for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 09 May 2012 22:37:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C766E0941; Wed, 9 May 2012 22:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out1-smtp.messagingengine.com (out1-smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.25]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5D4E0860 for ; Wed, 9 May 2012 22:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4CEA2125D for ; Wed, 9 May 2012 18:36:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend1.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Wed, 09 May 2012 18:36:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=Sr6JWZodvt6tEY2TBF4kchARWls=; b=GcCJM1pyXhwrGYFjgfdWyCIlTU5g zCzH/f8c4VYaIxv2EvJTIiTmvOGmAca17uu6XC1zkkFDrfe3Ty8QmbFVlqBTC89n 3ido6WSDkKnlr7intrKTQJjr/2f648PrqCjw0QvhTHQ7E4F6du1BqvlPwFSy9bJI acsiCZHSDxHoU3U= X-Sasl-enc: zILG2iJGhJ9P/M8gGPYncroZ6eu4UYb1EQ6g44ISDRHE 1336602992 Received: from localhost (c-67-168-183-230.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [67.168.183.230]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4B0CA8E00D2; Wed, 9 May 2012 18:36:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 May 2012 15:36:30 -0700 From: Greg KH To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Tightly-coupled core distro [was: Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012] Message-ID: <20120509223630.GA29213@kroah.com> References: <4F85E21C.4060106@gentoo.org> <20120423012540.GA2130@waltdnes.org> <20120505010529.GD22763@kroah.com> <20120509183203.GA27545@kroah.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: e4d83a2d-4fbb-441c-89fa-c7a1ec99eac6 X-Archives-Hash: b3dbc29acb371460a94362b1b18af66e On Wed, May 09, 2012 at 08:51:37PM +0200, Fabio Erculiani wrote: > I foresee a new udev fork then. Please feel free to do so, the code has been open since the first day I created it. Remember, forks are good, there's nothing wrong with them, I strongly encourage people to do them if they wish to, it benefits everyone involved. > If udev is going to end up like avahi is, this is *highly* probable. That's an odd transition... > With "avahi is ..." I actually mean, one single tarball blob depending > on the whole world and its solar system and galaxy. Hyperbole, how nice :( > Please stop throwing lennartware at people. FailAudio has been enough, thanks. The use of these terms is both rude and totally uncalled for. You should be ashamed of yourself. Seriously, that's unacceptable behavior from anyone. No one forces you to use any of this software if you do not want to. There are lots of other operating systems out there, feel free to switch to them if you do not like the way this one is working out, no one is stopping you. But for you to disparage someone who has given immense bodies of work to the community, and you, for free, is horrible behavior and needs to stop right now. greg k-h