Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012

[Greg KH <gregkh@gentoo.org>]

On Fri, May 04, 2012 at 03:50:24PM +0100, Steven J Long wrote:
> >> To confirm again, that this is about without initramfs:
> >> <dberkholz> sure i can. maintain old udev-XXX forever, put an elog in new
> >> udev that says "if you want separate /usr without initramfs, install old
> >> udev, mask new, or whatever"
> > 
> >   systemd and udev are being merged into one tarball.  For the
> >   "foreseeable
> > future", it will still build 2 separate binaries.  What happens down the
> > road if/when it all becomes one combined binary?
> >
> Well I've read assertions that it will be possible to build udev without 
> systemd for distros and users who want it, and this is supposedly a firm 
> commitment into the future. Then again, experience doesn't bode well for 
> those kind of commitments.
> 
> (It's much easier to introduce coupling between software in the same 
> package. GregKH has also mooted a tightly-coupled "core" Linux distro, which 
> afaict is the same reasoning as GnomeOS, and /that/ sounds like a 
> clusterfsck waiting to happen.)

"mooted"?

And since when does having a set of tightly coupled base libraries and
systems that work well together somehow turn into "GnomeOS"?  Reaching
like that is just foolish on your part.

greg k-h