From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SHg53-0008Qk-9k for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:46:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DCB7E0999; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:46:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ob0-f181.google.com (mail-ob0-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE5C6E095F for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 18:45:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbwd20 with SMTP id wd20so143556obb.40 for ; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 11:45:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=j3t23wFwtyzU7iA088Xil2RtCmF5bdh+gA0MMJ0g4HM=; b=YT94umW1gC0BbDk/55PZtWdQrN/ntog5ejORePAmMUOpJOoziA5UoHy6A13Q9BqdiK XhuhBH7fUgk5vYSTiTMcelFgX1mKxqfHjbi0my9dzX1x7U91uxVdeFEdK8IUaAuEZExd BCzoLyTe/xhzBaX/8J1zhjM8m8/xmaQRAX3Z8i5vgDqTx/yPM5G03e1JWIal1u3NP1OV uajhNYci4/P3miWXzcaVR9PeB+C6Bw3WvtJyH9IaAgzVQTCyi7MTsY/JXNrkQ1WN+EUQ CBaayfG30L5j4uJ5WgkzaSOfUsCKGnmtccnWh4jaHS+OjjFCsFYQSb1zQAHjhPHgmPjx yUxw== Received: by 10.182.114.3 with SMTP id jc3mr17690802obb.18.1334083507071; Tue, 10 Apr 2012 11:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-77-158.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.77.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d9sm177836obq.0.2012.04.10.11.45.05 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 10 Apr 2012 11:45:06 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:45:04 -0500 Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2012 13:45:04 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: council@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-dev-announce] Council meeting summary for 3 April 2012 Message-ID: <20120410184504.GB8504@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org, council@gentoo.org References: <20353.41193.129711.306663@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20120408220422.GA26440@kroah.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120408220422.GA26440@kroah.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 9f57b269-20e0-4087-8d4c-9082a45fe7a1 X-Archives-Hash: aea300ef0332d5e4aadc874c04c0c0bf --TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 03:04:22PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > On Sun, Apr 08, 2012 at 04:30:01PM +0200, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > New udev and separate /usr partition > > ==================================== > > Decide on whether a separate /usr is still a supported configuration. > > If it is, newer udev can not be stabled and alternatives should be > > investigated. If it isn't, a lot of documentation will have to be > > updated. (And an alternative should likely still be provided.) There is no disagreement about whether or not separate /usr will be supported. No one has said that you can't have a separate /usr partition. Was the council aware of the tracker bug we have open where we are tracking the documentation changes explaining how to build an initramfs if you have a separate /usr partition [1]? Also, I am going to reiterate what Greg said. This is not an issue with udev, but with the entire linux ecosystem. There are binaries in /{bin,sbin} which link against libraries in /usr/lib for example. Also, with the appropriate documentation changes, which are being worked on (see [1]), I feel that the statement above that newer udev can't be stabled should be re-evaluated. William [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=407959 --TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk+Ef7AACgkQblQW9DDEZTjE4QCgqFkqw9NOvlEqZOwplhpHIrYD hG4AnigXVESykASABN4KP2Ih3Fer/EX4 =WoYl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TakKZr9L6Hm6aLOc--