From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SE0Qt-0004aF-00 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:41:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1242E1103; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 837D8E10ED for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 15:40:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhr17 with SMTP id hr17so1296224wib.10 for ; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:40:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; bh=jmG6vXv0J4XOpkRC2UEPLNsUoBhHYLk98livISIRH70=; b=q7r8JSf7SySpa0xI9tZBRxB8SNX/tiiPnfW2OlAlTuhL/5GOeiMPaWsNU059OLQu5X u49EYrwb202k3por/LFkCcaL+OoHV7CE/pDnz85HhyR9Z0dngxYOtn1hzUqPO+iQNvtr wucRADdR6NUURE8dcNMjXw1+BgsKFyzXR6phUp9mMqwS3UXHzK5Uiy8biKEago1F9/5N ESlg6zanw6NJE3QSmzY785bg9sWf2XdivYsHC+bjF/OeZWPkT5XGw84FHVaKJ6Ypc66+ 5sBCzfqKHnbftbPsoOSmstBst34sUEi/PR+A5vl3T2H2FG7CPvGW1wOfAMoa0BfRbdlA LJ+Q== Received: by 10.180.88.199 with SMTP id bi7mr7341967wib.12.1333208431815; Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (host-92-23-144-62.as13285.net. [92.23.144.62]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o2sm27134739wiv.11.2012.03.31.08.40.30 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 31 Mar 2012 08:40:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 16:38:50 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: Patrick Lauer Cc: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Happy 10th birthday (in advance) Message-ID: <20120331163850.5a9d539d@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <4F7722FF.9000404@gentoo.org> References: <20120330150041.c3f7684c.axel@james-b.ch> <4F75B45F.2050108@gentoo.org> <4F76226B.1020507@gentoo.org> <4F762BCF.9010204@cs.stonybrook.edu> <20120331085622.5650ca62@googlemail.com> <20120331105253.4a00ebcc@googlemail.com> <4F76E3B0.7010800@gentoo.org> <20120331160155.25dda6e0@googlemail.com> <4F771D98.8000000@gentoo.org> <20120331161257.652ef568@googlemail.com> <4F7722FF.9000404@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/_o7kZzSw2usu=g0EDqj2O9J"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 21b0000f-28e5-4cec-b9c7-46b3a296b969 X-Archives-Hash: fbf01b9df96991daa945463f78c3d1a7 --Sig_/_o7kZzSw2usu=g0EDqj2O9J Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:30:07 +0800 Patrick Lauer wrote: > > So you think Gentoo should advertise as "the chances of it working > > are greater than 0%"? >=20 > I said better ... not repetitive trolls. >=20 > If you cared about making things better you'd spend more time writing > patches and less time trying to pick fights on public mailinglists :) >=20 > But I guess small minds, small pleasures ... What Gentoo needs is less immediate writing of patches and more careful thinking about how a complex mess of sort-of working, poorly interacting features can be unified into a smaller number of correct, coherent concepts. Right now most of the patches are fixing screwups in earlier patches that were caused by implementing the wrong thing (and often introducing new problems along the way). The fact that you have code that does something does not automatically imply that doing it is a good idea. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/_o7kZzSw2usu=g0EDqj2O9J Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk93JQ0ACgkQ96zL6DUtXhGeQgCfRMTQa1UIYojea7EgfCVPI9Xz dzEAoJK8yMqqM9Ac8coTNUtd5n9cYl/M =kR8m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/_o7kZzSw2usu=g0EDqj2O9J--