From: Greg KH <gregkh@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem!
Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 14:00:21 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120314210021.GA11179@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120314155956.0e620579@googlemail.com>
On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 03:59:56PM +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:22:09 -0700
> Greg KH <gregkh@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > The people doing the work today do understand them, by virtue of
> > doing the work involved, which gives them the say in how it is done.
> > That's how open source works, why is this ever a surprise to people?
>
> The problem is that when a small number of people who have commit
> access to core projects screw everything up and don't fix the mess
> they're inflicting upon everyone,
Again, there is a simple solution for this problem, already provided,
and supported, so no "mess" talking here please, that's just trying to
be dramatic.
> the only option left with "how open source works" is for someone to
> fork the code from the point where it all worked. That isn't something
> that should be done lightly.
Forking should ALWAYS be done lightly and often, I highly recommend it.
If you think you know how to do something better, it's best to fork,
work it out, and if you come up with something, then work to merge it
back, if at all possible. If merging doesn't work, and it turns out
that your stuff works better, people will migrate to it, keeping it
alive.
Odds are, the fork will turn out to be a dead-end, and it will die off.
But you will then know the reasons why, and not be so upset when others
do things you disagree with.
That's the way evolution works, and it works quite well, it's why open
soure works as well as it does.
So please, fork away, I can't recommend it enough. Remember, it's what
got us Gentoo :)
greg k-h
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Thread overview: 165+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-03-11 2:27 [gentoo-dev] newsitem: unmasking udev-181 William Hubbs
2012-03-11 2:53 ` [gentoo-dev] " Rich Freeman
2012-03-11 3:28 ` Luca Barbato
2012-03-11 3:50 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-11 5:12 ` Luca Barbato
2012-03-11 17:33 ` William Hubbs
2012-03-11 17:35 ` Samuli Suominen
2012-03-11 18:00 ` Michał Górny
2012-03-13 1:22 ` [gentoo-dev] Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181] Joshua Kinard
2012-03-13 1:37 ` Kent Fredric
2012-03-13 2:16 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-13 2:33 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-03-13 3:14 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-13 3:53 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-13 5:17 ` Luca Barbato
2012-03-14 0:20 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 0:52 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-13 13:36 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-03-13 10:31 ` Jeroen Roovers
2012-03-13 11:54 ` James Broadhead
2012-03-14 0:16 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 8:39 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-03-14 12:40 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 14:41 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 14:51 ` Philip Webb
2012-03-14 15:04 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 15:08 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-03-14 15:22 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 15:59 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-03-14 21:00 ` Greg KH [this message]
2012-03-14 16:28 ` Matthew Summers
2012-03-15 13:22 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 17:11 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-03-14 17:29 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-14 17:58 ` Matthew Summers
2012-03-14 18:04 ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-03-14 18:36 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-03-14 18:56 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-14 19:14 ` Michael Orlitzky
2012-03-14 19:26 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-14 19:57 ` David Leverton
2012-03-14 21:04 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 22:14 ` David Leverton
2012-03-14 22:51 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 23:21 ` David Leverton
2012-03-14 23:44 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 23:58 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-15 0:07 ` Greg KH
2012-03-15 0:29 ` David Leverton
2012-03-15 11:20 ` Stelian Ionescu
2012-03-15 12:23 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 14:01 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 23:47 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-15 0:36 ` David Leverton
2012-03-15 0:45 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-15 0:49 ` David Leverton
2012-03-15 12:27 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 15:29 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-15 0:58 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-15 1:06 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-15 1:49 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-16 23:29 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-16 23:29 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-15 12:16 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 12:09 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 22:39 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-14 22:49 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 23:27 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-14 23:37 ` Greg KH
2012-03-14 23:51 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-15 1:07 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-15 1:37 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-15 1:44 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-16 1:17 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-16 1:18 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-15 5:18 ` Luca Barbato
2012-03-15 8:13 ` Martin Gysel
2012-03-15 12:40 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 20:44 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-17 7:12 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-19 5:21 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-15 12:34 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 20:45 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-15 21:49 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-03-14 20:03 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-14 20:55 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-14 21:05 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-15 4:10 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-15 12:47 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 13:36 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 19:30 ` Jeroen Roovers
2012-03-15 5:04 ` Luca Barbato
2012-03-14 17:59 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-15 5:24 ` Luca Barbato
2012-03-15 12:51 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 20:12 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-15 11:04 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 12:30 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-15 13:05 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 14:42 ` Greg KH
2012-03-15 19:04 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-15 19:17 ` [gentoo-dev] /dev/serial/ (was "Let's redesign the entire filesystem!") Greg KH
2012-03-15 19:41 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-15 14:41 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! Greg KH
2012-03-16 0:47 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-16 2:43 ` Greg KH
2012-03-16 3:01 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-16 15:18 ` Greg KH
2012-03-16 17:00 ` Michael Orlitzky
[not found] ` <7c08803524244ff0808d16539b8f9926@HUBCAS2.cs.stonybrook.edu>
2012-03-16 22:41 ` Richard Yao
2012-03-13 14:41 ` [gentoo-dev] Let's redesign the entire filesystem! [was newsitem: unmasking udev-181] Marc Schiffbauer
2012-03-13 23:12 ` James Broadhead
2012-03-14 12:00 ` James Cloos
2012-03-14 17:52 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-14 18:48 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-03-14 20:10 ` Kent Fredric
2012-03-15 6:33 ` Duncan
2012-03-15 13:07 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-13 5:11 ` [gentoo-dev] Re: newsitem: unmasking udev-181 Luca Barbato
2012-03-14 0:13 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 8:03 ` Duncan
2012-03-14 12:07 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 18:43 ` Duncan
2012-03-14 21:13 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-15 13:10 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-15 21:49 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-11 3:44 ` Dale
2012-03-11 5:48 ` Duncan
2012-03-11 11:03 ` Petteri Räty
2012-03-11 15:33 ` Zac Medico
2012-03-11 21:28 ` Petteri Räty
2012-03-11 21:43 ` William Hubbs
2012-03-11 21:48 ` Petteri Räty
2012-03-11 23:15 ` William Hubbs
2012-03-12 12:37 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-12 17:01 ` Matthias Hanft
2012-03-12 19:32 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-13 14:34 ` Petteri Räty
2012-03-11 22:57 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-13 8:43 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-13 9:14 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-14 0:29 ` Joshua Kinard
2012-03-14 0:36 ` Stelian Ionescu
2012-03-14 1:04 ` Maxim Kammerer
2012-03-14 1:14 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-14 13:02 ` Rich Freeman
2012-03-13 10:32 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-11 6:49 ` Ryan Hill
2012-03-11 21:08 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-11 23:03 ` Duncan
2012-03-11 23:14 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-12 9:02 ` Duncan
2012-03-12 14:09 ` Marc Schiffbauer
2012-03-12 19:41 ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-03-13 2:06 ` Ryan Hill
2012-03-12 18:34 ` Sven Vermeulen
2012-03-13 2:04 ` Ryan Hill
2012-03-11 8:06 ` [gentoo-dev] " Neil Bothwick
2012-03-11 8:41 ` Michał Górny
2012-03-11 9:36 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-11 10:43 ` Michał Górny
2012-03-11 17:26 ` William Hubbs
2012-03-11 18:08 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-03-11 23:09 ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-03-12 20:50 ` [gentoo-dev] " Robin H. Johnson
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