From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S7sbD-00012c-8c for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:06:59 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D9929E0994; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:06:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f169.google.com (mail-wi0-f169.google.com [209.85.212.169]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12624E0AAB for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhm17 with SMTP id hm17so6525857wib.4 for ; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:05:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; bh=+kubQd19COe6yGcm9HuyCOs2CS1eElfcWd8xQTc1X/A=; b=fYEvqDJJ4Kuhzd/Sxs4oAQugO4wuqVEcV8qbCyUfxx7DF3tP1BxuwkJwnyRRHuLO90 ne9HhdAwQ6vwB2PwqwKhHR1wTMGolWgT0H3o+J3rYcZrDY1FY4VxfdfVNxrZqiQbIake si/k8ELDzB0+hbc6FQTWpQoQQa53bAeqTojP4L8KPPAZMP6SimMCK58n80H2wxa1l+Go wyOa7Ve5AofTbT3cUBaEzOfhOpmbnOhs5sCJLU2Z8FZBE815/C4PTNaljpCW4SR7FRk1 53/EeuIwgmBHiCcz8GrYwoN+gjGOp0PkUUn0e6FU92jnRSmVt6owAmuvZsFNQM5b7g+h asoQ== Received: by 10.216.136.13 with SMTP id v13mr2157235wei.32.1331748334225; Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpc13-broo7-2-0-cust130.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com. [82.9.16.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j3sm19303550wiw.1.2012.03.14.11.05.33 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 14 Mar 2012 11:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 18:04:06 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Let's redesign the entire filesystem! Message-ID: <20120314180406.4008d9c9@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20120311173355.GB6599@linux1> <4F5EA152.80604@gentoo.org> <4F5FE34A.4030609@gentoo.org> <4F6091CE.1050009@gentoo.org> <20120314144115.GA30606@kroah.com> <20120314145144.GC3200@ca.inter.net> <20120314150431.GA2033@kroah.com> <20120314150827.53dc8336@googlemail.com> <20120314152209.GA2157@kroah.com> <4F60D585.4050206@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/1sLqaG+=QgZXt4_YZuGcL7i"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 5544f2a8-8cb0-4488-9615-f74eff26d5e9 X-Archives-Hash: 4b9106986f073659bcf98d133ef1e9e1 --Sig_/1sLqaG+=QgZXt4_YZuGcL7i Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 14 Mar 2012 12:58:26 -0500 Matthew Summers wrote: > Why is an in-kernel initramfs so bad anyway? I am baffled. Its quite > nice to have a minimal recovery env in case mounting fails, etc, etc, > etc. Because the initramfs is just replacing what / used to be, and it's even less well handled than "stuff not in /usr" is just now. All using an initramfs does is move the dependencies problem from somewhere where we have a solution that used to work and that still mostly works to somewhere where we don't have anything at all. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/1sLqaG+=QgZXt4_YZuGcL7i Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk9g3aUACgkQ96zL6DUtXhEbxACg5sJ611qM8EUIRxU6ei5QOqjh RIwAoJOYuBArtVfnNbTjxGoPvkqdwfAN =Xyez -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/1sLqaG+=QgZXt4_YZuGcL7i--