From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S7A14-0008QH-05 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:30:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F1FDAE0D29; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:30:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E59BE0CBA for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:29:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhr17 with SMTP id hr17so3774327wib.10 for ; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:29:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; bh=MuO3uNKaSBGVNS7pzz5gwtY6NjWyXLns+U20q8zr1nY=; b=e+LHp213h7sseAoLwgoq5Y1z7weNsCpJYzmlv3L1oJEYVA52HY5+TsTVGMxpMDnGCK w30sZZlrye0vay4U5oh8in11jj/XYnvYwt9UaMc2aoSiqZhshlfniI+Zl5VzxoCdbirZ xhdhW4jc5t/me2SmHjjUxNKRYDcHo1BKOSIH58DrhVMvALaYPX/kO/oBPm7LkQU/LzYv eW80gb9jPrEOldcpk8qBnlVSJksUt9EWKChVCfX0YO2kMug2h8QnUDW/5oEQhAipt+4q m/AixHzqupVcoFWI5Ds2ULXZQKgTQFybtWXR7goE93sTBxgBlCQ0kNy5UxdDwn9M/xH4 1eSA== Received: by 10.180.78.233 with SMTP id e9mr363195wix.0.1331576968435; Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpc13-broo7-2-0-cust130.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com. [82.9.16.131]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n8sm61248432wix.10.2012.03.12.11.29.27 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:29:27 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 18:28:15 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFD : .ebuild is only bash Message-ID: <20120312182815.2d73c8df@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <20318.15803.361859.738914@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> References: <20120312155927.2cca0d3b@googlemail.com> <20318.11498.463319.52140@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20120312171228.48c5b023@googlemail.com> <4F5E30F1.2010500@gentoo.org> <20318.14784.69603.177708@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20120312180424.26ad103b@googlemail.com> <20318.15803.361859.738914@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.10; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/OTWRP_vU0eHe1Cp2XQ9ygtq"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 8697c02b-6cea-4f4c-995d-5de802817072 X-Archives-Hash: f193fe2b8034d4d8d72841f989952057 --Sig_/OTWRP_vU0eHe1Cp2XQ9ygtq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:17:31 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > The person who wrote it is one of Satan's little minions. Also, > > change is bad. >=20 > And you think that this is better? Those *are* the arguments against GLEP 55 that we've had so far. You're adding in "someone already said no" (and the people who said that were discussing nonsense like using xattrs in its place, which should immediately invalidate anything they said on the matter) and "it looks ugly, but not just because I don't like the people who proposed it, honest" to that. The only reason this discussion is going on is because some people still think it's in their advantage politically to say no to anything seen as coming from "the wrong people". GLEP 55 is simple, it solves all the problems we have (including the version issue, which everyone is conveniently ignoring), it doesn't require us to guess what's going to happen next and it can be implemented immediately. That's a rather big deal. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/OTWRP_vU0eHe1Cp2XQ9ygtq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk9eQEIACgkQ96zL6DUtXhEojwCgtjJ5tKj42SZPufGslMRJqjW+ CIkAoN4CYMYJFH+4gPiSG3jO1lrRoiS3 =6zJ8 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/OTWRP_vU0eHe1Cp2XQ9ygtq--