From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RzGwX-0006Ns-7X for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:17:25 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7EA13E0CD3; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:17:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-tul01m020-f181.google.com (mail-tul01m020-f181.google.com [209.85.214.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067F1E0CB2 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2012 00:16:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by obbup10 with SMTP id up10so7342715obb.40 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:16:21 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of w.d.hubbs@gmail.com designates 10.182.15.2 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.182.15.2; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of w.d.hubbs@gmail.com designates 10.182.15.2 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=w.d.hubbs@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=w.d.hubbs@gmail.com Received: from mr.google.com ([10.182.15.2]) by 10.182.15.2 with SMTP id t2mr11509727obc.59.1329696981518 (num_hops = 1); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:16:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; bh=J3t5523jkIrqBqKOUVHeo/reSpT2ldrItvdhANBBHag=; b=Td2Ox8duMJfawlSzLaZKOccOStRj165Qcum+c5ThuqkFTeJpKF6n4wEYQZzLQkX6pu kUtzrKFKsE/qCjFkhIH6VPbWdGWHyK663hwyIlHyaIUw4b0zXNCgu7n6oDyUpYsbpwYa qHcYq1zc3EeRp35MAGg+8AXN6zaoLR+P2yJe4= Received: by 10.182.15.2 with SMTP id t2mr9774298obc.59.1329696981482; Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:16:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-77-158.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.77.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id zd4sm5085950obb.22.2012.02.19.16.16.17 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 16:16:20 -0800 (PST) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:11:53 -0600 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 18:11:53 -0600 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 by default Message-ID: <20120220001153.GA1900@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <201202151258.52431.vivo75@gmail.com> <20120215122252.GA12319@atrus.grandmasfridge.org> <20289.4544.982570.920405@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 4d88d78e-7f1a-4b64-a3e6-057d19992737 X-Archives-Hash: 40c4cfdc1ad1c91d49ba0997de210a0c --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 11:56:40PM +0800, Ben wrote: > On 19 February 2012 23:14, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >>>>>> On Sun, 19 Feb 2012, Ben =A0wrote: > > > >> In my opinion we should set a default environment with the following > >> values: > > > >> LANG=3Den_US.UTF-8 > >> LC_ALL=3D > >> LC_COLLATE=3DC > > > >> This offers the best default options to the majority of users, and > >> is easy to customize for those who wish to use another locale. > > > > At least, LC_NUMERIC=3DC should be added to this, otherwise numbers will > > be formatted with commas as thousands separators. > > > > Also en_US.UTF-8 for LC_MEASUREMENT and LC_PAPER means imperial units > > and letter paper, which isn't optimal for users outside of the U.S. > > > > Ulrich > > >=20 > I think those users (and that includes myself) should then set LANG to > something more appropriate to their use case. According to our localization guide, there is a safe default that forces UTF-8 characters but doesn't force any language. I have the following single line in /etc/env.d/02locale: LC_CTYPE=3Den_US.UTF-8 What do you think? William --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk9Bj8kACgkQblQW9DDEZTglIwCeIt+IE6iJXqaEHp+RITGzjQa6 YDIAn1xeowI6hBZRBWTeX9w9s0+/c8CC =KG0V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qMm9M+Fa2AknHoGS--