From: "Michał Górny" <mgorny@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Cc: tetromino@gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Application name in metadata.xml
Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2012 22:22:58 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120212222258.3cce66e3@pomiocik.lan> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1329081282.446.9.camel@rook>
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On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 16:14:42 -0500
Alexandre Rostovtsev <tetromino@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-02-12 at 20:37 +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote:
> > >>>>> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012, Paweł Hajdan, wrote:
> >
> > > On 2/11/12 2:00 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
> > >> Other distros associate a more user-friendly package name
> > >> (application name) to packages.
> > >> Say, they bind libreoffice-writer to "LibreOffice Writer" in
> > >> package metadata.
> >
> > [Replying to a random message in this thread.]
> >
> > Why do you think that writing the package name in mixed case and
> > with embedded white space would be more "user friendly"?
>
> because-removing-all-upper-case-spaces-and-punctuation-from-a-string
> makes it less readable to a non-programmer.
>
> > >> How about expanding metadata.xml (adding to its .dtd) to also
> > >> support this?
> >
> > I still don't see what this would buy us. So far we have a unique
> > identifier (namely ${CATEGORY}/${PN}) for our packages. Introducing
> > another name will water this down and cause confusion for users, in
> > the first place.
> >
> > So, can you point out what are the advantages of your proposal?
> > Are they large enough to outweigh the confusion arising?
>
> Users know a package's "natural name", not the occasionally cryptic
> ebuild name, and certainly not the category. If I want to install a
> game called "Neverwinter Nights", it may not be immediately apparent
> to me that I should emerge something called "games-rpg/nwn".
>
> Adding the natural name to metadata would allow users to more easily
> find the packages they need via packages.gentoo.org and tools like
> eix.
And make it less possible that users will actually report a bug
and suggest changing the package name to a less ambiguous one.
And AFAICS there's no 'nwn' in SRC_URI so it's just pointless to
abbreviate the name like that in our ebuild name.
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Best regards,
Michał Górny
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Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-02-11 13:00 [gentoo-dev] RFC: Application name in metadata.xml Fabio Erculiani
2012-02-11 13:27 ` Michał Górny
2012-02-11 14:03 ` Fabio Erculiani
2012-02-12 0:02 ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-02-12 8:01 ` Fabian Groffen
2012-02-12 15:43 ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2012-02-12 19:37 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-02-12 21:14 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2012-02-12 21:22 ` Michał Górny [this message]
2012-02-12 21:34 ` Alexandre Rostovtsev
2012-02-12 21:43 ` James Broadhead
2012-02-13 0:42 ` Thomas Sachau
2012-02-13 8:35 ` Markos Chandras
2012-02-13 13:12 ` Fabio Erculiani
2012-02-13 17:24 ` Kent Fredric
2012-02-13 9:41 ` Luca Barbato
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