From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RjFQh-0004dy-Ey for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 19:26:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8138B21C09C; Fri, 6 Jan 2012 19:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgate.caprica.metux.de (caprica.metux.de [82.165.128.25]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2223E21C044 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2012 19:25:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgate.caprica.metux.de (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mailgate.caprica.metux.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id q06JL2gf008149 for ; Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:21:02 +0100 Received: (from weigelt@localhost) by mailgate.caprica.metux.de (8.14.4/8.14.4/Submit) id q06JL2sW008148 for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:21:02 +0100 Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:21:02 +0100 From: Enrico Weigelt To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr Message-ID: <20120106192102.GA7401@mailgate.onlinehome-server.info> References: <20120101015947.GA9914@linux1> <20120106175049.GA27854@mailgate.onlinehome-server.info> <20120106192550.7ed4cbd9@pomiocik.lan> <20120106184127.GE27854@mailgate.onlinehome-server.info> <20120106200547.1cc4a5a3@pomiocik.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120106200547.1cc4a5a3@pomiocik.lan> X-Terror: bin laden, kill bush, Briefbombe, Massenvernichtung, KZ, X-Nazi: Weisse Rasse, Hitlers Wiederauferstehung, 42, X-Antichrist: weg mit schaeuble, ausrotten, heiliger krieg, al quaida, X-Killer: 23, endloesung, Weltuntergang, X-Doof: wer das liest ist doof User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: a49f514b-1736-42ff-99a6-8465bbde6f3b X-Archives-Hash: 8457db1c151029ca76b0c62a8323548e * Micha?? G?rny schrieb: > > I was talking about other things, like giving up the typical > > unix-style separation of subsystems, all the bloating happening > > in certain DE's and then pulling down that bloat to the system > > level (just starting w/ dbus) > > Yes, three arguments and just a one, silly example which is basically > incorrect assuming noone obliges you to use systemd. IIRC, systemd is not the only system-level package depending on dbus. > > Yes, what's the big deal ? Done that with thousands of nodes. > > Without initramfs? Yes. Using PXE and nfsroot. > Syncing rootfs over and over again or just updating > packages installing into it once a year? Regularily updating packages, but with quite conservative policy. Of course, this required proper service restarts, etc, but thats an topic on its own ... > > > That's because people would like to get rid of additional > > > directories in /, not introduce additional ones. > > > > Aha. Then why not also moving /home, /etc and /var to /usr, too ? ;-o > > (hmm, some mindless jerks really could pick up that silly idea...) > > You should consider taking like 1 or 2 hours of your precious time to > read about the use and meaning of various directories in the filesystem. I studied FHS and its purpose somewhat >15 years ago, and I don't want to repeat all the arguments. My argument was just: if you wanna move /bin+co to /usr for easier maintenance, you could also put /usr/* to / for quite the same reasons. cu -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ phone: +49 36207 519931 email: weigelt@metux.de mobile: +49 151 27565287 icq: 210169427 skype: nekrad666 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme ----------------------------------------------------------------------