From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Riucr-0003V4-2l for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 21:13:29 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E836A21C164; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 21:13:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wi0-f181.google.com (mail-wi0-f181.google.com [209.85.212.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0298B21C216 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 21:12:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibhq2 with SMTP id hq2so801632wib.40 for ; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:12:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; bh=EHS8O7xo6KuV0iEx4IKYiOc2liiaTCZ5jDQCtmsZPbs=; b=Df45dMiTLYbz3refsJNj4ClVSDt8wByEhgJtXyi/JOXKS/YwdtQNd3jerNR8u+rzxR MIfRPtO+71pSTx1JL/UJMDbgyUrHegABISLfxaypZ5O9xhbpcvq1P/GpDYtg4c5X+7pF XwaWU9kKZEp21sbGQ1KwfVlivfb7R4wgD2Ea4= Received: by 10.180.99.232 with SMTP id et8mr3037502wib.8.1325797937269; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (cpc1-broo4-0-0-cust780.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com. [86.4.215.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h13sm1699546wbn.17.2012.01.05.13.12.16 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 05 Jan 2012 13:12:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 21:09:35 +0000 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr Message-ID: <20120105210935.48306bb9@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <1325797329.2385.1.camel@TesterTop4> References: <20120103212215.GU780@gentoo.org> <20120103230918.GA7247@linux1> <4F03A1AA.6070205@gentoo.org> <20120104091743.0e1cd91a@pomiocik.lan> <4F0440B3.4090500@gentoo.org> <20120104163734.07439f2b@pomiocik.lan> <20120104163315.GV780@gentoo.org> <20120104174742.11d7002d@pomiocik.lan> <20228.34930.732592.657243@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20120105193024.GA8291@linux1> <20120105200844.1124e9d4@googlemail.com> <1325797329.2385.1.camel@TesterTop4> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.7; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/sD3EXCp1v/NFWGzv7gJY3QW"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 3ffc266a-b880-4952-8e22-dca1543ba36e X-Archives-Hash: 187b76e6e7843c1f1339911ca339e0a3 --Sig_/sD3EXCp1v/NFWGzv7gJY3QW Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 05 Jan 2012 16:02:09 -0500 Olivier Cr=C3=AAte wrote: > On Thu, 2012-01-05 at 20:08 +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:30:24 -0600 > > William Hubbs wrote: > > > > Or will /etc move to /usr too? > > >=20 > > > No, /etc isn't going anywhere. > >=20 > > Are you sure? I heard a rumour that systemd will soon require you to > > put /etc inside your initrd (since / can't be mounted without it). > > Obviously, you'd have to reboot if you made any changes to your > > config files, but that's OK since you can't safely restart daemons > > anyway. >=20 > Dude, the systemd people are not crazy. You should try to understand > what they do before criticizing.=20 I don't claim they're crazy. I claim they're sacrificing functionality, correctness, loose coupling, simplicity, well defined behaviour, understandability and stability in order to implement questionable new shiny things. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/sD3EXCp1v/NFWGzv7gJY3QW Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk8GEZMACgkQ96zL6DUtXhGANACgg4bgAZptq77FBn17EOO6N8/M gioAoOaPtyfOAaGxida9lG2T0uYGF3el =zmHv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/sD3EXCp1v/NFWGzv7gJY3QW--