From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RiieT-0006hz-2J for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 08:26:21 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 97F6221C1B2; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 08:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B980621C194 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 08:25:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiocik.lan (unknown [81.219.203.13]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 011C01B4176; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 08:25:13 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 09:26:16 +0100 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: mschiff@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr Message-ID: <20120105092616.125d76b0@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: <20120104183007.GG30764@lisa.schiffbauer.lan> References: <20120101015947.GA9914@linux1> <20120101085326.GA1928@gentoo.org> <20120102194341.3766edeb@pomiocik.lan> <20120104165112.5c24ed12@pomiocik.lan> <20120104155407.7c946dbc@googlemail.com> <1325698810.22213.16.camel@TesterBox.tester.ca> <20120104183007.GG30764@lisa.schiffbauer.lan> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.8.0 (GTK+ 2.24.8; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; boundary="Sig_/dkh95NhdoQfH_NoSh6LqZ0="; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: 103e4e76-ffe9-4d13-9417-ba09b4c675b8 X-Archives-Hash: 2329639fe61b562ace73db446bede5a6 --Sig_/dkh95NhdoQfH_NoSh6LqZ0= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:30:07 +0100 Marc Schiffbauer wrote: > * Olivier Cr=C3=AAte schrieb am 04.01.12 um 18:40 Uhr: > > On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 15:54 +0000, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > > On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 16:51:12 +0100 > > > Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > > > > /bin/systemctl > > > > libdbus-1.so.3 =3D> /usr/lib64/libdbus-1.so.3 > > >=20 > > > Here is a prime example of why "vertical integration" should > > > really be called "a horrible mess of tight coupling"... > >=20 > > You clearly have failed to realize that d-bus is a now the bus for > > system messaging and is as much part of the system as syslog or > > bash. Probably even more so, for example, in Fedora 17, you'll be > > able to boot without syslog or bash, but you need d-bus. >=20 > IMO a system should *always* be bootable without that "high level" > stuff. And by bootable I mean that you can get a root prompt at > least. And why do you consider D-Bus being high-level? Just because things used to reinvent the wheel before in a much worse fashion? --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/dkh95NhdoQfH_NoSh6LqZ0= Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQEIAAYFAk8FXqwACgkQfXuS5UK5QB05RgP8DuoLXCLmhh7dwD3GnCk2u6QS DmizyW1HviOFtAMxZd6ctVVQfxFw4Qw6XIFxAafTCQ8myB2OZp37mz2/A4XqF6Lk iVMMxO8R11rGgl5WJPo3RHA2MA2bwErrMdOBkCLdO8dkBMEB5Y4iUxpFek7u0VWb dZ/p/+o6YRRFPCt2rc8= =RNxj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/dkh95NhdoQfH_NoSh6LqZ0=--