From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RiW91-0001vr-8x for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 19:05:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BA1B21C1CE; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:03:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from amun.cheops.ods.org (amun.cheops.ods.org [83.161.135.166]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 339CE21C1DE for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 19:00:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nut.cheops.ods.org ([2001:888:1022:0:ca2a:14ff:fe35:7a00] helo=gentoo.org) by amun.cheops.ods.org with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1RiW4y-0000gb-9v for gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 20:00:53 +0100 Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 20:00:51 +0100 From: Fabian Groffen To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr Message-ID: <20120104190051.GW780@gentoo.org> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20120103212215.GU780@gentoo.org> <20120103230918.GA7247@linux1> <4F03A1AA.6070205@gentoo.org> <20120104091743.0e1cd91a@pomiocik.lan> <4F0440B3.4090500@gentoo.org> <20120104163734.07439f2b@pomiocik.lan> <20120104163315.GV780@gentoo.org> <20120104174742.11d7002d@pomiocik.lan> <20228.34930.732592.657243@a1i15.kph.uni-mainz.de> <20120104195024.100993ff@pomiocik.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lwh1Pd/JV/tBwoJB" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20120104195024.100993ff@pomiocik.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (Darwin 11.2.0, VIM - Vi IMproved 7.3) Organization: Gentoo Foundation, Inc. X-Content-Scanned: by amun.cheops.ods.org (Exim Exiscan) using SpamAssassin and ClamAV X-Archives-Salt: 55929a13-32c5-4fc7-b157-220ba3b3ba83 X-Archives-Hash: fb21a0078d6f5e3e3e199c3930a45e33 --lwh1Pd/JV/tBwoJB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 04-01-2012 19:50:24 +0100, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 18:12:18 +0100 > Ulrich Mueller wrote: >=20 > > >>>>> On Wed, 4 Jan 2012, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > >=20 > > >> What mistakes? > >=20 > > > The mistake of introducing a pointless separation based on a rule of > > > thumb which becomes more and more blurry over time, and hacking > > > packages just to make it work. > >=20 > > There's really nothing pointless or blurry about this separation. > > The FHS has a nice definition: "The contents of the root filesystem > > must be adequate to boot, restore, recover, and/or repair the system." >=20 > Why don't we have sshd there then? I don't really feel like repairing > remote system without fallback sshd. Network isn't typically in that bootlevel. You'd just attach through the console (netmgt, ipmi, keyboard/vga) instead. > And a compiler. If I mess up some important system component, I'd really > use one. And package manager. And backup system libraries... Time for your PXE boot from net to just bring back a sane image or so. --=20 Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level --lwh1Pd/JV/tBwoJB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAk8EoeMACgkQX3X2B8XHTonGqQCgg0scyxKKM/luiOrzU0KyHcRg gikAn2ScCvVtjw5WFLKpzjJNq7h6O1HZ =uBuK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lwh1Pd/JV/tBwoJB--