From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RiMp2-0000A1-Bn for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Jan 2012 09:07:49 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 22AC721C065; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:07:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from arsenic.logifi.fr (arsenic.logifi.fr [217.108.178.219]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A3421C057 for ; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 09:07:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nicolas-desktop (unknown [192.168.8.78]) by arsenic.logifi.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0D732013D; Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:07:08 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:07:08 +0100 From: Nicolas Sebrecht To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Nicolas Sebrecht Subject: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr Message-ID: <20120104090708.GA2398@nicolas-desktop> References: <20120101015947.GA9914@linux1> <20120101085326.GA1928@gentoo.org> <4F032489.5000202@gentoo.org> <4F0327E9.50508@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4F0327E9.50508@gmail.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Archives-Salt: 752281ba-f1f7-40d7-a90c-b672f35a37aa X-Archives-Hash: f8faed88638f2102d0357d231d12a28b The 03/01/12, G.Wolfe Woodbury wrote: > The problem is that one group of developers is ignoring years of history > and purpose in the separation of /bin and /usr/bin and the ability of > having a separate /usr. This is in the udev development team and they > /deliberately/ placed or used some programs in /usr/bin instead /bin and > requiring that /usr bee in the root partition. The udev team has nothing to do with the /usr mount requirement. Lot of packages hooked themselves via udev while they had binaries or dependencies in /usr. > I will note that the historical separation of the /usr stems from the > days of user home directories being in /usr/home instead of /home. It > is getting to the point that the security aspects of having a read-only > mount for userspace executables is being overridden by developer fiat. It's a joke? -- Nicolas Sebrecht