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From: William Hubbs <williamh@gentoo.org>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2012 08:48:34 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120102144834.GA4582@linux1> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan.2012.01.02.05.39.39@cox.net>

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On Mon, Jan 02, 2012 at 05:39:39AM +0000, Duncan wrote:
> Olivier Crête posted on Sun, 01 Jan 2012 15:17:50 -0500 as excerpted:
> 
> > On Sun, 2012-01-01 at 12:46 -0600, William Hubbs wrote:
> >> I don't think the /{bin,sbin,lib} and /usr/sbin directories should be
> >> deleted.
> >> 
> >> However, what I would like to see is that the package maintainers would
> >> be responsible for creating any compatibility symlinks their package
> >> needs, not portage. I don't think it is a good idea to have portage or
> >> any package manager controling the migration.
> > 
> > The other option is to do mv /bin/* /sbin/* /usr/sbin/* /usr/bin; and
> > then create symlinks from the other dirs to /usr/bin.. That can be done
> > in big move, it's the way Fedora is going to do it.
> 
> That's what I had in mind, and in fact have already been thinking about 
> trying, here.
> 
> Which is why I don't really like the idea of packages placing symlinks, 
> since then it'd likely be the symlink copied last, overwriting the actual 
> binary with the symlink... pointing at itself due to the symlinked dirs!

If we don't use symlinks at all, we do not have to
force everything in one big move like this, just allow the
package maintainers to update things as new releases come out or do rev
bumps to move their packages. Eventually everything will be off of
/{bin,sbin,lib} and be installed in /usr.

William

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-01-02 14:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 224+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-01  1:59 [gentoo-dev] rfc: locations of binaries and separate /usr William Hubbs
2012-01-01  6:16 ` [gentoo-dev] " Ryan Hill
2012-01-02 17:54   ` Alexis Ballier
2012-01-02 18:30     ` Michał Górny
2012-01-01  7:12 ` [gentoo-dev] " Olivier Crête
2012-01-01  7:33   ` Matthew Thode
2012-01-01 20:09     ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-01 20:51       ` Dale
2012-01-01 21:49         ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-05  3:12           ` Jeroen Roovers
2012-01-05  3:43             ` Dale
2012-01-01 20:18     ` Michał Górny
2012-01-01  7:33   ` Patrick Lauer
2012-01-01 20:21     ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-01 20:23       ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-01-01 21:50         ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-02  8:41           ` Eray Aslan
2012-01-03 18:50             ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-03 18:54               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-01-03 19:07                 ` Michał Górny
2012-01-03 19:02               ` William Hubbs
2012-01-03 19:12                 ` Fabian Groffen
2012-01-03 20:01                   ` William Hubbs
2012-01-03 21:22                     ` Fabian Groffen
2012-01-03 23:09                       ` William Hubbs
2012-01-03 23:27                         ` Michał Górny
2012-01-04  0:47                         ` Thomas Sachau
2012-01-04  8:17                           ` Michał Górny
2012-01-04 12:06                             ` Thomas Sachau
2012-01-04 15:37                               ` Michał Górny
2012-01-04 16:33                                 ` Fabian Groffen
2012-01-04 16:47                                   ` Michał Górny
2012-01-04 17:12                                     ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-04 17:32                                       ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-04 18:26                                         ` Marc Schiffbauer
2012-01-04 20:12                                           ` Eray Aslan
2012-01-05  2:40                                         ` Zac Medico
2012-01-07  3:10                                           ` Michael Weber
2012-01-07  6:58                                             ` Zac Medico
2012-01-07  9:35                                               ` Michał Górny
2012-01-07 20:20                                               ` Michael Weber
2012-01-04 18:27                                       ` Kent Fredric
2012-01-04 18:47                                         ` Michał Górny
2012-01-04 18:51                                         ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-04 19:09                                           ` Fabian Groffen
2012-01-07  0:41                                           ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-07  0:59                                             ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-07  1:10                                               ` Matthew Thode
2012-01-07  9:41                                             ` Michał Górny
2012-01-04 18:55                                         ` Rich Freeman
2012-01-05 19:30                                         ` William Hubbs
2012-01-05 20:08                                           ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-01-05 20:40                                             ` Rich Freeman
2012-01-05 20:44                                             ` Sven Vermeulen
2012-01-05 21:02                                             ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-05 21:09                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-01-05 21:26                                                 ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-06  0:44                                                   ` Patrick Lauer
2012-01-06  0:57                                                     ` Arun Raghavan
2012-01-06  2:15                                                     ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-06  2:58                                                       ` Marc Schiffbauer
2012-01-06  8:16                                                       ` Alec Warner
2012-01-06 15:28                                                         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-01-06  8:55                                                       ` Fabian Groffen
2012-01-05 22:06                                                 ` Michał Górny
2012-01-05 22:08                                                   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-01-05 22:36                                             ` Alex Alexander
2012-01-06 13:35                                               ` Rich Freeman
2012-01-06 16:07                                                 ` Alex Alexander
2012-01-07 23:47                                                   ` Lars Wendler
2012-01-08  9:33                                                     ` Michał Górny
2012-01-10 18:14                                                       ` Enrico Weigelt
2012-01-10 18:46                                                         ` Michał Górny
2012-01-10 18:56                                                           ` Dale
2012-01-10 19:03                                                             ` Michał Górny
2012-01-10 19:04                                                               ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-01-10 22:40                                                               ` Dale
2012-01-11  7:41                                                                 ` Michał Górny
2012-01-11  8:38                                                                   ` Christopher Head
2012-01-11  8:44                                                                   ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-11 17:03                                                                     ` Michał Górny
2012-01-11 17:04                                                                       ` Matthew Thode
2012-01-11 16:34                                                                   ` Dale
2012-01-11 17:01                                                                     ` Michał Górny
2012-01-11 17:13                                                                       ` Dale
2012-01-11 17:26                                                                       ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2012-01-11 18:24                                                                       ` Alec Warner
2012-01-11 18:42                                                                         ` Dale
2012-01-17 22:15                                                               ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-01-17 22:29                                                                 ` Rich Freeman
2012-01-10 19:08                                                             ` [gentoo-dev] " Rich Freeman
2012-01-10 22:49                                                               ` Dale
2012-01-10 19:09                                                             ` Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
2012-01-10 22:55                                                               ` Dale
2012-01-17 22:00                                                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-01-18  3:38                                                           ` [gentoo-dev] " Dale
2012-01-18  4:18                                                             ` Mike Gilbert
2012-01-18  5:57                                                               ` Dale
2012-01-18  7:02                                                             ` Michał Górny
2012-01-18  7:20                                                               ` Dale
2012-01-18 13:36                                                                 ` Michał Górny
2012-01-21 12:28                                                                   ` Dale
2012-01-21 14:57                                                                     ` Michał Górny
2012-01-21 21:34                                                                       ` Dale
2012-01-21 21:50                                                                         ` Zac Medico
2012-01-21 23:45                                                                           ` Dale
2012-01-22  0:12                                                                             ` Zac Medico
2012-01-21 22:01                                                                         ` Michał Górny
2012-01-21 23:43                                                                           ` Dale
2012-01-04 18:50                                       ` Michał Górny
2012-01-04 19:00                                         ` Fabian Groffen
2012-01-04 19:28                                           ` Michał Górny
2012-01-04 19:32                                             ` Fabian Groffen
2012-01-04 18:48                                 ` Thomas Sachau
2012-01-04 19:26                                   ` Michał Górny
2012-01-04 19:36                                     ` Fabian Groffen
2012-01-03 19:19                 ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-03 19:35                   ` Rich Freeman
2012-01-03 19:47                     ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2012-01-03 20:15                     ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-03 19:39                   ` William Hubbs
2012-01-03 19:47                     ` Fabian Groffen
2012-01-03 20:32               ` Eray Aslan
2012-01-06 18:26     ` Enrico Weigelt
2012-01-01 16:56   ` William Hubbs
2012-01-01 18:40   ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-01-01 22:39   ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-01-01  8:53 ` Sven Vermeulen
2012-01-01  9:09   ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2012-01-02 18:41     ` Michał Górny
2012-01-01  9:45   ` Dale
2012-01-01 13:44     ` Rich Freeman
2012-01-01 14:05       ` Dale
2012-01-01 20:21   ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-02 11:47     ` Sven Vermeulen
2012-01-02 12:58       ` Rich Freeman
2012-01-02 13:31         ` Kent Fredric
2012-01-02 16:01         ` Michał Górny
2012-01-03 22:47     ` Sven Vermeulen
2012-01-04  0:32       ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-02 18:43   ` Michał Górny
2012-01-04 13:50     ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-01-04 13:54       ` Rich Freeman
2012-01-04 15:19         ` [gentoo-dev] " Steven J Long
2012-01-04 15:24           ` Rich Freeman
2012-01-04 18:16           ` Robin H. Johnson
2012-01-04 15:51       ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2012-01-04 15:54         ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-01-04 16:02           ` Michał Górny
2012-01-04 17:40           ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-04 18:06             ` Ciaran McCreesh
2012-01-04 18:30             ` Marc Schiffbauer
2012-01-04 18:53               ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-04 20:45                 ` Marc Schiffbauer
2012-01-04 21:55                   ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-05  3:24                     ` Marc Schiffbauer
2012-01-05  4:58                   ` Duncan
2012-01-06 18:10                 ` Enrico Weigelt
2012-01-05  8:26               ` Michał Górny
2012-01-05 11:08                 ` Marc Schiffbauer
2012-01-05 14:30                   ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-05 14:31                   ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-05 17:12                     ` Duncan
2012-01-05 18:17                       ` Michał Górny
2012-01-06 18:08             ` Enrico Weigelt
2012-01-03 15:53   ` [gentoo-dev] " Ian Stakenvicius
2012-01-03 16:08     ` G.Wolfe Woodbury
2012-01-03 16:40       ` Michał Górny
2012-01-03 17:56       ` Rich Freeman
2012-01-04  9:07       ` [gentoo-dev] " Nicolas Sebrecht
2012-01-03 17:45     ` Duncan
2012-01-03 18:18       ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-01-03 23:58         ` Duncan
2012-01-01  9:23 ` Duncan
2012-01-01 10:15   ` Zac Medico
2012-01-01 17:54     ` Duncan
2012-01-03 16:03     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-01-03 16:51       ` William Hubbs
2012-01-03 17:00         ` Fabian Groffen
2012-01-03 17:03         ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-01-03 17:35           ` Duncan
2012-01-03 17:59             ` William Hubbs
2012-01-01 18:32   ` William Hubbs
2012-01-01 18:46     ` William Hubbs
2012-01-01 20:17       ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-02  5:39         ` Duncan
2012-01-02  6:44           ` Zac Medico
2012-01-02 14:48           ` William Hubbs [this message]
2012-01-01 17:54 ` [gentoo-dev] " Michał Górny
2012-01-02 17:54   ` William Hubbs
2012-01-02 18:37     ` Michał Górny
2012-01-02 18:46       ` William Hubbs
2012-01-03 16:18     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-01-02  6:24 ` Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy
2012-01-02  9:45   ` Michał Górny
2012-01-02 17:03   ` William Hubbs
2012-01-03  9:51 ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-03 15:10   ` William Hubbs
2012-01-03 16:40     ` Ian Stakenvicius
2012-01-03 18:02       ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2012-01-03 18:36       ` [gentoo-dev] " William Hubbs
2012-01-03 19:19         ` Olivier Crête
2012-01-03 19:30           ` Fabian Groffen
2012-01-03 19:28         ` Rich Freeman
2012-01-03 19:39         ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2012-01-04 12:58   ` Arun Raghavan
2012-01-04 13:13     ` Rich Freeman
2012-01-04 13:23       ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2012-01-06 17:50 ` Enrico Weigelt
2012-01-06 18:25   ` Michał Górny
2012-01-06 18:41     ` Enrico Weigelt
2012-01-06 19:05       ` Michał Górny
2012-01-06 19:21         ` Enrico Weigelt
2012-01-12 15:29         ` Ralph Sennhauser
2012-01-12 16:06           ` Alec Warner
2012-01-07  1:08       ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-07 19:01         ` Enrico Weigelt
2012-01-08 11:48           ` Walter Dnes
2012-01-08 22:58 ` Michael Weber
2012-01-09  7:20   ` Zac Medico
2012-01-09  8:22   ` Michał Górny
2012-01-09 10:30     ` Alec Warner
2012-02-04 16:31 ` Alexey Shvetsov
2012-02-04 17:27   ` Rich Freeman

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