From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RY1K5-0001Kr-Lw for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 06 Dec 2011 20:09:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0DE0A21C071; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 20:08:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A83F521C048 for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 20:07:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vapier.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21A106443E for ; Tue, 6 Dec 2011 20:07:52 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc: use iproute2 for all network handling in linux Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 15:07:51 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.1.0-atsc; KDE/4.6.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <20111111215344.GA31226@linux1> <201111131333.46343.vapier@gentoo.org> <4EC01171.6040107@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4EC01171.6040107@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart1363277.ds8BSGr6j7"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201112061507.52347.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: 1b15424e-3af6-44c9-a420-011ef92a2a7f X-Archives-Hash: e45c6e6ce3e0f838f896d0d9ded75ec4 --nextPart1363277.ds8BSGr6j7 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday 13 November 2011 13:50:25 Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB= =85n wrote: > Mike Frysinger schrieb: > > On Sunday 13 November 2011 13:04:57 Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1= =BB=85n wrote: > >> Mike Frysinger schrieb: > >>> until we have replacement for all of its tools, it's always going to = be > >>> there. > >>=20 > >> After net-tools is no longer needed for basic setups (which I understa= nd > >> will be still the case after the proposed changes), why should it rema= in > >> in the system set? > >=20 > > you snipped the following sentence where i explained why net-tools can't > > be removed. iproute2 replaces *most* of net-tools, not *all*. >=20 > And do we need *all* of net-tools for basic setups? You said that > currently openrc uses the host and domain name tools, but iirc sysctl > can set hostname/domainname too (note that I do not to say that using > sysctl is preferable). for Linux, we'll be transitioning the hostname init.d script to /etc/hostna= me=20 and having the rc binary reading that and calling sethostname() itself. i= =20 think the init.d script will stick around for a while as `hostname` should = be=20 a bit more portable than sethostname() ... at least, it'll be a safety net = for=20 people to fallback onto. =2Dmike --nextPart1363277.ds8BSGr6j7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJO3nYYAAoJEEFjO5/oN/WBxkYQAJsO+BYffiTIg3jwnKBPnnot 8nln0l5bC7OvCL/j3MvWcizQgkvjeF2a8bTqFNyfhhKVpDy2P9gEQeXvkEIyUAnN F0l2xxziTcowsOk6LzzBUR1/cc0SawqRQt4FyW416qyTINd9qEH4DQyxU/EmO0S/ kZ2tzLSET5VB44T3yARyLPBecgKJiKLScCXkMlSqDOoaAEzk3/N2xhR2gMVOJRMg pQFxwY9zlBJkM6krP7Y3PexTdLRuhpbYZPpWA43QctQ1JfMIuf0r92C2NAzO4JwF y7NMeTKpZD2kopABg3z+YKtJ9ar47U/y87BvNgBXyZU5NbWeu4qtYJKPKk7wgKb0 hPbIp9iQJDVTSatt1M7cdBhhiSKnRO6BaWp+Y0ehBdl2IZMFeS41ja6/CLcsL0/T 1k6HXqZsVwRVthdDw6LBXRmrt/ZhUzeN9DIB0AazgzhDjth+yOP0izCka05gW0Hy hLc+4vcJvLTc1i32sWMKk9SjvlXY3EGrjQu8VvGd2KF4KUrXWZpB6eMYFlsX+5Xl SWt514RIBD5AEK7ol9jcbcraqTmkhqVIYX4orNsGPmdlt3pgUxk/iXa+3MhAehX5 +5lgqpG7yKGe47dyfv8bCIA544Rg4iopNB90vW56smAyHojfRGMdAth0/q6C8l3l gJ1KXyS3upwK3G1t0wYq =dly2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart1363277.ds8BSGr6j7--