From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RX5wK-0008CP-IH for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 04 Dec 2011 06:52:45 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C8D8B21C07C; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 06:52:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF05821C031 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 06:51:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from epia.jer-c2.orkz.net (D4B2706A.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [212.178.112.106]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jer) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BA2B91B4006 for ; Sun, 4 Dec 2011 06:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2011 07:51:09 +0100 From: Jeroen Roovers To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again? Message-ID: <20111204075109.7c41b1db@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> In-Reply-To: <20111204005117.519cd7ff@gentoo.org> References: <20111204045000.244efea3@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> <20111204005117.519cd7ff@gentoo.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 96e8d2ac-d18e-491a-a6c6-d1b471082e74 X-Archives-Hash: 277d2b5b9ddad8f93f5d0c35cb57f53f On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 00:51:17 -0600 Ryan Hill wrote: > How many times have you needed to request build logs in english since > the last time you brought this up? How many times have you had to > request emerge --info or build logs in general? Many dozens of times, and a magnitude more dozens of times, respectively, which also indicates quite clearly that this: > I think adding a note to bugzilla reminding reporters that logs need > to be in english would be a better solution isn't going to work, and that this: > than forcing it on everyone. is what we're effectively already doing, only that we require human intervention and a lot of time and effort to establish that. jer