From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RPplK-0005HB-Ad for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:11:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D396921C054; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:11:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1D221C033 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:10:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vapier.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA7361B4023 for ; Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:10:34 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc: use iproute2 for all network handling in linux Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 01:10:35 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.1.0; KDE/4.6.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <20111111215344.GA31226@linux1> <201111131923.29050.vapier@gentoo.org> <4EC06761.6000408@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4EC06761.6000408@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3437003.8OqvBBXNSU"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201111140110.36198.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: fd6a4b99-b225-4c7f-9db2-b54d40ccced7 X-Archives-Hash: 9a7606002d7fc16c2865cc13b42ba00e --nextPart3437003.8OqvBBXNSU Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sunday 13 November 2011 19:57:05 Ch=C3=AD-Thanh Christopher Nguy=E1=BB= =85n wrote: > Mike Frysinger schrieb: > >>>>> until we have replacement for all of its tools, it's always going to > >>>>> be there. > >>>>=20 > >>>> After net-tools is no longer needed for basic setups (which I > >>>> understand will be still the case after the proposed changes), why > >>>> should it remain in the system set? > >>>=20 > >>> you snipped the following sentence where i explained why net-tools > >>> can't be removed. iproute2 replaces *most* of net-tools, not *all*. > >>=20 > >> And do we need *all* of net-tools for basic setups? You said that > >> currently openrc uses the host and domain name tools, but iirc sysctl > >> can set hostname/domainname too (note that I do not to say that using > >> sysctl is preferable). > >=20 > > yes, host/domain names can be set through sysctl, but as you say, that > > isn't exactly preferable, and brings its own set of troubles. >=20 > Ok, and do you see any other parts of net-tools that are needed for > basic setups? not really =2Dmike --nextPart3437003.8OqvBBXNSU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJOwLDcAAoJEEFjO5/oN/WBDcAP/02MFczIkI1SA4xyGCP0RuKK eNBuaZZciPlZprHu6YY/BjP5iGm4bkyKP8cIkgjtaobAHwwNhv/ngoXDG//Om5cP wKLb/w5GWjirBmACTfHseCiJIzTtlWfPWG92O/Qrxc9SYi+mg9mfXY7FgrqXBQHP uPNtLPkPkTYvKzzcpRPJeT/KG/KwnDIE87IXQ3Ri9dh1KV9ptxyk3Vt69kYsIiEd vyAhcBrrfiKzVrP1uvSXiw2Cnw2mK/y5l289k58AnDL3lHh64QpqA0bkOKJqmYOC quAefkh+FkswmPEeFfTh1vf70ergfa7HB9UMLny5B6YIBJM3/LVMHugWt7LlG3Z/ eq5aISOrahCSlCIP+l/g696F/gbsXV0ftYSGHj54a0D4jBXA6GSs3tbg3o5TB/vA W5+HvrCRYTU4uYY0OFb3a8Lc2tOwI54Ui88KdVLo5C8KBs8yZSJ08eUynH+4yZ+Z 97x4bWSA1RqCrwmqTueONZMdHbwQW5pglKlrm7yKBGaVgmRpkBPtvuWQ1jxvyweG /lvsFwYcwHOkb+XJiu8ATaD5IMJeh0XQ1oaX+jUk6ZVdFuOQtV/mpcyVc4uff6iz ReL2FYSoSsEIn74qoU+lFk892AeeF4PHGOpqusnZH9S7SZYTrP9i7OO4pOgSUS5X EcSOgfs7/+niwBnoB9lr =BZwl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3437003.8OqvBBXNSU--