From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1ROz3H-00032A-BV for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:54:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F355221C0F1; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:54:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-f53.google.com (mail-yw0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6430021C040 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 21:53:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: by ywp18 with SMTP id 18so1845236ywp.40 for ; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:53:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:user-agent; bh=a4U9YOfXbetg0Hu4WetLedaWpqrJRyZJDTZPsYTUB3E=; b=jRKA4nL9lB4GHTQv9t7ARIGP0M2w8So0a1NGvw+XOvlC8A81lb2mJ1qNPJYWCjKnQE 3eqFLBsxQCrLE28/u77i/qdd1b3WciBMmdHlCLie+zGXVZ4920ikjDHqVrQfOuqOxpY5 1YR7iWn8jDCtvv1TSVTGnyzutAdcXxImCY6pY= Received: by 10.100.19.5 with SMTP id 5mr3664ans.156.1321048426839; Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:53:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-187-77-158.tx.res.rr.com. [76.187.77.158]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z28sm18993410yhl.4.2011.11.11.13.53.44 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 13:53:46 -0800 (PST) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:53:44 -0600 Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:53:44 -0600 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo development Subject: [gentoo-dev] rfc: openrc: use iproute2 for all network handling in linux Message-ID: <20111111215344.GA31226@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo development Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="J/dobhs11T7y2rNN" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: 7c94777d-577d-4712-bd37-68dded10a55a X-Archives-Hash: 5c881329dcf1c58062d79bf1992771c5 --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi all, http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=389437 has prompted a discussion of whether or not we should use ifconfig in openrc to configure networking on linux systems. I'm not asking that we consider removing net-tools from systems, because there are tools there that we still need. In my view though, two of these tools (ifconfig and route), have been surpassed in functionality by iproute2's ip tool. So, what I am considering doing is dropping the ifconfig module from openrc and using iproute2 for all network configuration on linux systems. The other side of the discussion seems to be that openrc needs to work on minimal installations, so we need to continue supporting using ifconfig. I realize there would be a trade-off if I stop supporting linux's ifconfig and route in openrc, but how much of a trade-off? Would the benefits of iproute2 outweigh the down side of not supporting ifconfig and route on linux? What does everyone think? William --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk69mWcACgkQblQW9DDEZTgVrACgqva3BSeV+K8YJyUjqUE5gztA 11UAn0pCBbFdg4FXnuHbIfNGpdDkxrGs =cHIF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --J/dobhs11T7y2rNN--