From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RF7o8-0003Bl-2G for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:14:00 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B8E721C15F; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:13:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E1DA21C134 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:13:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vapier.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F42011B400C for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 17:13:14 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 13:13:17 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.1.0-rc4; KDE/4.6.5; x86_64; ; ) References: <20111012044023.GA8203@waltdnes.org> <20111015040603.GB14632@waltdnes.org> <20111015092954.347b9393@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: <20111015092954.347b9393@pomiocik.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart22745646.fzoZDZQI18"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201110151313.17758.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: c3d3ac3d5160fc5345eccd9b0aa73128 --nextPart22745646.fzoZDZQI18 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Saturday 15 October 2011 03:29:54 Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: > On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:06:03 -0400 "Walter Dnes" wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:14:31AM -0400, Olivier Cr?te wrote > > > We're imposing our deep integration because it's the only way to > > > make a compelling platform that "just works", forcing users to tell > > > the computer something the computer already knows is just plain > > > lazy and stupid. > > >=20 > > Eventually, that hits Mac or Windows-like levels of dictating 1 or 2 > >=20 > > sets of choices and nothing else. If I wanted Mac or Windows, I'd be > > running Mac or Windows. If the developers don't deliberately make my > > system break if /usr and /var aren't physically on / (and no > > initramfs), I'm willing to do a bit of extra work to configure things > > my way. Speaking of tight integration, what happens if Redhat's > > employees make udev depend on systemd? >=20 > And what happens, if GNU folks make GNU userland depend on Hurd? with gnulib in place, they (directly) won't =2Dmike --nextPart22745646.fzoZDZQI18 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJOmb8tAAoJEEFjO5/oN/WB9TsP/2I0Vgn3Nbt87LkcLS8gT3wG 94E7wTB7Ozm99pSDo2Cs7m2LXzfagynKw1zseL0nn7mQ1yf+M3qooNR7+pOQ/HIK JkzzERCLmX8lMywt89O9HnFcOktG7jkyLQXt2jgTL8rLWdM1Ks37yvUkIkQPFcMt o/4WpPAhitIL9MUxn96qLjIMvLfb2LFon3M1e8QYmFQiLyH8LewJOt1HHGzPUAlJ eRxekc2zIde57l4E1BSYGa6SQ+lB7xxmsYibz0GMGvLfJ8ID5A87We5kSJAXqJkQ FmXVbOal4nItUyCzKihq1X0L3/BWjbcLVaPKyWJwan2SXUbyYX3RNzZC0RztuIiu cN1PCcpCHyHQ+Y/fkTn1Er6ehxTNBn8MaObKLtDaRT9GNzH3eIbjntKCrWCunHXt cAwTjPz56xCNCpXcVF/FgMllFE0dBgih1OcLYPraTvzI8FcG+GFEqkFd7VHvgwqq y9HMVWFCqP8L7sIOYY0sBvQjeFnQrcZ7zffzNygRpwNngEkYKstabVRDoJGeIIzA uWCGpFUjlDIPeM7IknlC1tu1RMfDTIH4CQAdUsL5h5TalNqOyux2T3sFZ+vZhnTR aGVZSF5mu4H0EmzAIFNgbetPBbPbNl27FA739V1HZJK+HFK8TCavI8zEcYeDx435 XiNjV3nHMzx6xDhyeMfX =3Tjw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart22745646.fzoZDZQI18--