From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1REyf8-0003SM-9G for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 07:28:06 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA8A121C02A; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 07:27:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD1E421C023 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 07:27:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiocik.lan (178-37-170-64.adsl.inetia.pl [178.37.170.64]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 02D101B4030; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 07:27:22 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:29:54 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: waltdnes@waltdnes.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev Message-ID: <20111015092954.347b9393@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: <20111015040603.GB14632@waltdnes.org> References: <20111012044023.GA8203@waltdnes.org> <20111012090517.2e8446be@pomiocik.lan> <20111012130949.GB8613@waltdnes.org> <20111012184919.6fac637a@googlemail.com> <1318518871.3885.3.camel@TesterBox.tester.ca> <20111015040603.GB14632@waltdnes.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; boundary="Sig_/L_qPUonL3x+Dv7+331tEFPN"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: ac7e9e61707a12743082ef6bf4d88029 --Sig_/L_qPUonL3x+Dv7+331tEFPN Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 00:06:03 -0400 "Walter Dnes" wrote: > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:14:31AM -0400, Olivier Cr?te wrote >=20 > > We're imposing our deep integration because it's the only way to > > make a compelling platform that "just works", forcing users to tell > > the computer something the computer already knows is just plain > > lazy and stupid. >=20 > Eventually, that hits Mac or Windows-like levels of dictating 1 or 2 > sets of choices and nothing else. If I wanted Mac or Windows, I'd be > running Mac or Windows. If the developers don't deliberately make my > system break if /usr and /var aren't physically on / (and no > initramfs), I'm willing to do a bit of extra work to configure things > my way. Speaking of tight integration, what happens if Redhat's > employees make udev depend on systemd? And what happens, if GNU folks make GNU userland depend on Hurd? --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/L_qPUonL3x+Dv7+331tEFPN Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQEIAAYFAk6ZNnYACgkQfXuS5UK5QB3wYwP9GF5c4wbQxCvt20QR+Ab0GxPR Pw1IE3UZD/ulWQeuwWZmiOYRqI/Jtv6MVCQhMS6eLZZ2+pinq2phswT5ro+ssmic 0BSNV8R4kInBEqm8NoM3YtIMVIU6DUROqMreZ3F+ePK3rTNV/kfLdmDNFZDDaH+9 q/a5uUQrGpiL60fbK7Y= =yLSf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/L_qPUonL3x+Dv7+331tEFPN--