From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RDyaS-00080F-4Z for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:11:08 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 710D621C15B; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ironport2-out.pppoe.ca (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1799221C138 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 13:09:45 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AskGAASRlU5Ld/Kg/2dsb2JhbABDmVOOW4EGgVMBAQQBOhwoCws0EhQlN4d+uiWDIINXYQSZK4d1hEU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,334,1315195200"; d="scan'208";a="141407619" Received: from 75-119-242-160.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO waltdnes.org) ([75.119.242.160]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with SMTP; 12 Oct 2011 09:09:43 -0400 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:09:49 -0400 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:09:49 -0400 To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev Message-ID: <20111012130949.GB8613@waltdnes.org> References: <20111012044023.GA8203@waltdnes.org> <20111012090517.2e8446be@pomiocik.lan> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20111012090517.2e8446be@pomiocik.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 39138b710b839fd806911743d4a7ed9a > Goodbye desktop users then. > > We recently dropped HAL. Now all the magic that was done by HAL (and > required udev anyway) is done through udev directly. My system worked just fine before HAL was introduced, thank you. I always had sys-apps/hal and sys-apps/dbus in /etc/portage/package.mask and my system continued to work just fine, thank you. Given the great HAL fiasco, the fact that HAL has been incorporated into udev is yet one more reason for dropping udev . -- Walter Dnes