From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RDsqu-0003A7-7O for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:03:44 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DDF421C10F; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:03:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4B321C099 for ; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:02:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiocik.lan (77-254-94-0.adsl.inetia.pl [77.254.94.0]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F0AE21B4006; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 07:02:50 +0000 (UTC) Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:05:17 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: waltdnes@waltdnes.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion for getting rid of udev Message-ID: <20111012090517.2e8446be@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: <20111012044023.GA8203@waltdnes.org> References: <20111012044023.GA8203@waltdnes.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; boundary="Sig_/XGwHdO+IL=UH1t7gYVQt0oy"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 15f224814ad39e59fbe2a81082bd55bc --Sig_/XGwHdO+IL=UH1t7gYVQt0oy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:40:23 -0400 "Walter Dnes" wrote: > The other option is to drop udev entirely. As an example, I suggest > looking at Alpine Linux http://alpinelinux.org/ It's a lightweight > server-oriented distro. It uses busybox's mdev instead of udev, and > some other mdev substitutes in place of standard packages. It uses > openrc. Furthermore, "previous versions of Alpine were based on > Gentoo" as per > http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Creating_an_Alpine_package so there > should be no problem with us borrowing back from Alpine. Goodbye desktop users then. We recently dropped HAL. Now all the magic that was done by HAL (and required udev anyway) is done through udev directly. Dropping udev =3D dropping it all. This means that no *kit would work anymore, xorg will require explicit configuration, bluez may not work anymore as well. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/XGwHdO+IL=UH1t7gYVQt0oy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQEIAAYFAk6VPDEACgkQfXuS5UK5QB3lcwP8DkTjPvfF6meeispwt2ii+VgQ KxlYyouSXy+UVpYF5EPoy1GCbcoDCdASnQDH6Y0976Uy20ft0MvzSOlv8GTttxHW Ee4p1XRy8JE8vRg0hr49Nfja8vrIjDs7A7vgGDvzQLouChenV65f7dlXQNb8DyBu /ep9U2/dGdAvemROfIo= =wlS7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/XGwHdO+IL=UH1t7gYVQt0oy--