From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R5hn0-0000mN-0e for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:37:59 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 32EBE21C032; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:37:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from out3.smtp.messagingengine.com (out3.smtp.messagingengine.com [66.111.4.27]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E433321C07A for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 17:37:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.mail.srv.osa [10.202.2.41]) by gateway1.nyi.mail.srv.osa (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62EC1344B4 for ; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:37:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from frontend2.nyi.mail.srv.osa ([10.202.2.161]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:37:14 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id :references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding :in-reply-to; s=smtpout; bh=R3gpcqofx/JguOYG+7AQmNYwPCE=; b=Xq47 hWOMl2NBVty+csoAzH6KU2Q/LV2fht7s1cGqCZvFBEY/rD9hRRGFWo81czF7Q5A9 jMOX3Y/PdjDN3j8eggc1IBIbiKTRiBPPHapqWMO7Eje/T05wsTmZ/0CAfI77Nre6 MN0FuIoIYOUxARpLLeLISxS3Mg/Xioy25IgWVAY= X-Sasl-enc: L4Z+s5eJQiJT3fWjusZL5yg4o+7V9Ann5WOnANbAP7LI 1316453833 Received: from localhost (c-71-227-171-60.hsd1.wa.comcast.net [71.227.171.60]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E39F896026F; Mon, 19 Sep 2011 13:37:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2011 10:36:45 -0700 From: Greg KH To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] udev and /usr Message-ID: <20110919173645.GA32211@kroah.com> References: <20110918144958.6dc836ce@pomiocik.lan> <4E75FFB6.3030600@gentoo.org> <4E76FA06.8000409@gentoo.org> <20110919103355.2e124fd2@pomiocik.lan> <4E7703E6.2060503@gentoo.org> <20110919111057.00b4da6d@pomiocik.lan> <4E771B7D.8050702@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4E771B7D.8050702@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 62b419c4666d690cede8cf31cbefae38 On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 06:37:49AM -0400, Joshua Kinard wrote: > On 09/19/2011 05:10, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > Could we stop putting random stuff in random dirs because 'it will > > work'? /etc is _SYSCONFDIR_. I don't see how PCI IDs are config at al= l. >=20 >=20 > The best answer is for someone to look into udev and see what it needs > exactly from /usr. Does it really need pci.ids? Or is it just the fac= t > that random udev rules might rely on a tool/lib in /usr? Oh come on people, please do some basic research and read what has been posted about this numerous times in the past instead of just guessing. > Former, yes, pci.ids is perfectly valid to go into /etc. It specifies = a > mapping of PCI ID numbers to device strings used in udev rules. >=20 > In the latter case, maybe rules specifically required for booting up en= ough > to mount disks need to be isolated into their own file and udev pointed > there, then re-pointed to the bigger file after /usr is made available.= If > that is even possible. >=20 > Note: I'm brainstorming here. Anyone else? It's as if people are just totally ignoring what has already been discussed here, why should we even pay attention to this anymore? And for those udev/systemd haters, you all do know about devtmpfs, right? If not, {sigh}, I don't even know why I care anymore... greg "sick of it all" k-h