From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R5IhP-0007ZE-Lv for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:50:28 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B50721C292; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C817621C296 for ; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:49:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pomiocik.lan (213-238-104-87.adsl.inetia.pl [213.238.104.87]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mgorny) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D26271B400B; Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:49:28 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2011 16:51:33 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?TWljaGHFgiBHw7Nybnk=?= To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Cc: jmbsvicetto@gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] udev and /usr Message-ID: <20110918165133.444159c7@pomiocik.lan> In-Reply-To: <4E75FFB6.3030600@gentoo.org> References: <1740055.XA9oyAS8HQ@eve> <4E7252A1.2000300@gentoo.org> <1336457.yNbGUQDlCr@eve> <4E7584E8.2080009@gentoo.org> <20110918144958.6dc836ce@pomiocik.lan> <4E75FFB6.3030600@gentoo.org> Organization: Gentoo X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.10 (GTK+ 2.24.6; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; boundary="Sig_/lB05XpCexIkJEme7nINZ3Ws"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 25a6d3f40d1382bd7d868987e0d5c0a2 --Sig_/lB05XpCexIkJEme7nINZ3Ws Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, 18 Sep 2011 14:27:02 +0000 "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > On 18-09-2011 12:59, Nirbheek Chauhan wrote: > > On Sun, Sep 18, 2011 at 6:19 PM, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny > > wrote: > >> No, there isn't anything traumatic. The only thing systemd folks > >> are doing is nicely asking devs to include systemd unit files > >> whenever necessary or use the eclass whenever upstream supplies > >> those files. > >>=20 > >> In other words, some devs just found themselves a scapegoat. > >>=20 > >=20 > > ++ > >=20 > > I'm astonished by the large amount of misinformation that is being=20 > > spread around about systemd. If this originated on the gentoo-user=20 > > mailing list, I'm disappointed that Gentoo users wouldn't do some=20 > > basic research. > >=20 > > I kind of expect this kind of trigger-happy FUD from websites like=20 > > omgubuntu, but surely Gentoo folk are more mature. >=20 > You mean that no Linux users, in particular anyone not running or not > wanting to run GNOME and Fedora, shouldn't be worried about the way > some people in the GNOME and Fedora community seem intent to impose > their ways to everyone else? Worse, in the process seeming to want to > convince everyone they found the panacea and that the "old unix ways" > that have been around for 40+ years are all obsolete and that we > should give in to "the collective"? Could you give at least a single example instead of this 'blah blah blah, I don't like you'? It's much easier to discuss particular cases rather than 'they all make me feel sad'. --=20 Best regards, Micha=C5=82 G=C3=B3rny --Sig_/lB05XpCexIkJEme7nINZ3Ws Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQEIAAYFAk52BXUACgkQfXuS5UK5QB3IPwP+NmQaIXmNgdB+/upW7Fzh9g5g Y6xqLDWs452DMHE3tanv1nEBIbqWAJuVKYJNGcN6jPCRu/WmLJTIGEo9eTs5IHjF k8k5vYFcBwcZhUp9DH+oqatTQTaa0iICfMOggt18k23+BbPY1bs6rISxnMSrai+c uLfpCnsrO33bSQRAjNQ= =AOQ2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/lB05XpCexIkJEme7nINZ3Ws--