From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R4Og0-0008MK-EP for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:01:16 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC05121C23F; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:01:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722AC21C28D for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:00:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (174-25-234-172.rstr.qwest.net [174.25.234.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: dberkholz) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BF61B1B4006 for ; Fri, 16 Sep 2011 03:00:21 +0000 (UTC) Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 22:00:19 -0500 From: Donnie Berkholz To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] new `usex` helper Message-ID: <20110916030019.GA5000@comet> References: <201109131756.19714.vapier@gentoo.org> <20110914020228.GP31178@comet> <20110914021449.GA5106@localhost.hobnob.com> <20110914191641.GQ31178@comet> <20110915002949.GA16239@localhost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110915002949.GA16239@localhost> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 5815f18f493e8db626b180fa65d3bb8e --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 17:29 Wed 14 Sep , Brian Harring wrote: > On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 02:16:41PM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > On 19:14 Tue 13 Sep , Brian Harring wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 09:02:28PM -0500, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > > > > On 17:56 Tue 13 Sep , Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > useful enough for EAPI ? or should i just stick it into eutils.e= class=20 > > > > > ? OR BOTH !? > > > >=20 > > > > I prefer to avoid EAPI whenever possible, as it just makes things s= lower=20 > > > > and more complex. > > >=20 > > > Exactly the wrong approach; it winds up with master=20 > > > repositories/overlays cloning the functionality all over the damn=20 > > > place. > >=20 > > Why are people cloning anything if it's in eutils.eclass in gentoo-x86? >=20 > There are more repositories than just gentoo-x86, and overlay is *not*=20 > the only configuration in use. Who else besides you is using any other configuration? Should we really=20 give a crap about the 0.001% population with some weird setup when we're=20 trying to improve things for the 99.999% one? > In the old days of the PM only handling a single overlay stack, what=20 > you're suggesting would be less heinous- heinous in detail, but=20 > pragmatic in reality. These days it's a regressive approach-=20 > requiring everyone to slave gentoo-x86 isn't sane, nor is avoiding=20 > eapi (resulting in people having to duplicate code into each=20 > repository stack). I don't know many people who aren't using gentoo-x86 or a repo that=20 pulls in changes directly from it. --=20 Thanks, Donnie Donnie Berkholz Council Member / Sr. Developer Gentoo Linux Blog: http://dberkholz.com --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.18 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk5yu8MACgkQXVaO67S1rttqDACg4eSi1dfgZrRA1uZ3ATwcmZu8 tjsAnj0FT4HCqe/iP/mwpSad3+3Z4HyL =434+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z--