From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QoZmf-0000v3-Nj for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 11:38:50 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A22921C1BB; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:38:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1398921C10B for ; Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:37:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyh22 with SMTP id 22so634008wyh.40 for ; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 04:37:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:x-mailer :mime-version:content-type; bh=5tCubAP7jcz0qnde/5NeWWgxpMpXwpY/051mFtINd7w=; b=WpKjYwi0aKF+Dqb8hjE93olqilqdjaMbJ0qmSC71iSAqaWEHhZK4fjTCK7S7IsJDrN 0FBGbzyGADCXiX6IH6MZB3SjF05OesxWoDvZ0scbRJrpXYkTR3zOK6+wac+Gob6AcbxD F6OSDX6SabVQYkMuC8qPvSKZQ6u4HBbMnuMSg= Received: by 10.227.32.136 with SMTP id c8mr6313536wbd.7.1312371477965; Wed, 03 Aug 2011 04:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (cpc1-broo4-0-0-cust780.14-2.cable.virginmedia.com [86.4.215.13]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fr7sm610018wbb.22.2011.08.03.04.37.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 03 Aug 2011 04:37:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:34:21 +0100 From: Ciaran McCreesh To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: POSIX capability in Gentoo Message-ID: <20110803123421.75bb6bde@googlemail.com> In-Reply-To: <20110803002929.GA351@localhost> References: <4E3809AA.2050609@gentoo.org> <20110802153134.7cab1727@googlemail.com> <4E380EEA.6080505@gentoo.org> <20110802155454.5fb24cb4@googlemail.com> <4E38123E.90709@gentoo.org> <20110802160554.68059c64@googlemail.com> <20110802181717.6e156630@googlemail.com> <20110802173846.AF04F21C12C@pigeon.gentoo.org> <20110802183918.5ef5252c@googlemail.com> <20110803002929.GA351@localhost> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.24.5; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA1; boundary="Sig_/fikkW.zZKr7DlYG/5g5S8Qc"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 1a3f0290750093d82a0b0d0574ad10c1 --Sig_/fikkW.zZKr7DlYG/5g5S8Qc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 17:29:29 -0700 Brian Harring wrote: > On Tue, Aug 02, 2011 at 06:39:18PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > On Tue, 02 Aug 2011 13:36:12 -0400 > > Jonathan Callen wrote: > > > That statement needs one more qualification: "and doesn't use > > > portage". Portage will (by default) remove files on uninstall > > > even if they *do not* match the checksum recorded in the vdb. > > > This implies that most people will *not* see any issues due to > > > something other than the package manager modifying the files > > > behind the package manager's back. > >=20 > > Ugh, seriously? When did that happen? That's a massive change to how > > VDB is supposed to work. >=20 > That's been in place a long while; pkgcore has done it from day one=20 > also. >=20 > That's not a "massive change" to vdb behaviour either; file > collisions aren't supposed to occur, as such ownership of the file is > basically guranteed back to a single package. Throw in > CONFIG_PROTECT for adjusting the behaviour, and you have a far more > preferable norm than "lets just leave a shit ton of .pyc/.pyo on the > fs". It is a massive change, since if the feature is there then people don't feel bad about writing lousy pkg_ functions that leave a load of .pyc / .pyo files all over the place. --=20 Ciaran McCreesh --Sig_/fikkW.zZKr7DlYG/5g5S8Qc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk45MkAACgkQ96zL6DUtXhE54ACgl2GpAaPzUIc9242eyicAUg7L 4aEAoOPwXcqsjUD9+7SroUBCZA8P43Ls =3bg2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/fikkW.zZKr7DlYG/5g5S8Qc--