From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QZTth-0000lT-LL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:19:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E64521C0CD; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:19:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4101F1C064 for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:18:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vapier.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6CE564B0A for ; Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:18:11 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC Remove USE=fortran in default profile Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2011 16:18:11 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.39; KDE/4.6.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <4E00459D.5000807@gentoo.org> <201106221647.15752.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <4E020749.3060505@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: <4E020749.3060505@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3568644.W9Jqt2QDEU"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201106221618.12011.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 9fc9fdb6b250c94a29e5fe4749b90cdc --nextPart3568644.W9Jqt2QDEU Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:16:25 justin wrote: > On 6/22/11 4:47 PM, Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > Am Mittwoch 22 Juni 2011, 16:35:07 schrieb Matthew Summers: > >> One thing to note is that a few various python modules, like numpy, > >> really benefit from fortran. While many people using numpy are > >> scientists, many are not and further there are various modules that > >> depend on numpy that non-science folks use. I, for one, care little > >> about where that flag is set, since I have manually set that USE for > >> years now in make.conf. I am simply hoping to make you aware of the > >> fact that there are potential cases that could be easily overlooked. > >=20 > > ... and there are also typical end user software packages like digikam > > and kipi-plugins for photo processing, which rely e.g on opencv for face > > recognition, red eye removal, ... >=20 > So then, >=20 > lets make a clear decision how we should handle the fortran USE. >=20 > 1. leave it as it is as global USE enabled. >=20 > 2. enable it as default for gcc >=20 > 3. let package maintainers fix their packages, > means depend on fortran by default where it is the best and/or needed (3) needs to be done regardless of anything else. default settings doesnt= =20 prevent people from disabling fortran on their systems and then hitting a=20 broken build. if (3) is done, does it really need to be a global flag anymore ? =2Dmike --nextPart3568644.W9Jqt2QDEU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJOAk4DAAoJEEFjO5/oN/WBOugQAMTB5mK/xWC9FavmEieOgry5 NpKARcB8Q4kxSdSnJs1975h4HceLxFAal+dZgH7NUJcIniZGY0WTu1b1musXcTq7 cfgx2Nw/Wlgwan52Ayuk/xeu4IXWPvaYF9KtNjD3cAZSDKBerVT0ljOfsjrpE3Ri jhiw81UQyubMV9eKK3DcG+pAMqv4TaJ5aWfgh5bGC2oXZS6bqtIk5EKEpgay6qbB oSjKzojJsxXo7ffgQl/exmffvnuUvpnbim1Q88w732cVUiWMv5rO1zwLAcayHlP2 KfF6WO7RQQZW3gCZ+JWPsCl8SfTBhUai9Jh6sXuBlEAZ47i0NkFDKu1WkKUd4hVV DoCBJ0k1MSGAqFcJVKaVr2TUhVW7kdEQlnlWs4qHLj1OQ2WR7IEkX1hR/t1hyxXJ tTeQKGqL2Q//OWCKv8wcGCiy2CtoaMgQ/byAmOQ+O9BNg3aiwcQjgvIBHg30T9Y2 dz6Qyza6+18a5lQwkA7ZCyUl+bVnRJesJkQia3hlrAYjuv+mM0WJDNfTgn5S1gxO sN1P+UNPZN81liPu0BtTUFXqHc/PjZ8WC7rSeWACuiPONH1/S+S2kuKZBqkIrtnF ZMRQ+WlxzpJat2Fdp1Udujs+Gu2kGFw2dVZxOEWpF9lLyCgnv8spHKo+irDNb2iD sNLYTiyp/3Mfy2IP6Knh =4+9E -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart3568644.W9Jqt2QDEU--