From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QU48a-0007BD-2Q for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 07 Jun 2011 21:48:36 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B41481C19A; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 21:48:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBCF61C1BF for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 21:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from vapier.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EA201B401C for ; Tue, 7 Jun 2011 21:47:19 +0000 (UTC) From: Mike Frysinger Organization: wh0rd.org To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in app-arch/bzip2: bzip2-1.0.5-r1.ebuild Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2011 17:47:19 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/2.6.39; KDE/4.6.3; x86_64; ; ) References: <20110516033002.207452004F@flycatcher.gentoo.org> <201106071709.34494.vapier@gentoo.org> In-Reply-To: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart8000628.YUAPPpRShB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201106071747.19914.vapier@gentoo.org> X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 0bf3797f5773517cf44a91c800940024 --nextPart8000628.YUAPPpRShB Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 17:32:03 Matt Turner wrote: > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On Tuesday, June 07, 2011 16:47:29 Dane Smith wrote: > >> To be perfectly blunt, no small part of what caused this current fiasco > >> was this exact attitude. I don't like the current policy either, it's > >> far too wide. However, if you go back and look at why it even *got* to > >> council, it was because you (and others), decided that they weren't > >> going to give any regard to the requests of some of their fellow devs > >> about ChangeLogging removals. > >=20 > > how is this relevant at all ? i dont find value in these entries, other > > people do. my attitude towards how worthless they are has 0 bearing on > > the policy towards creating it. >=20 > Plenty of people have, successfully I though, argued that removal > Changelog entries _are_ useful and have cited relevant situations. >=20 > Make a case about how the current policy is stupid in that it requires > changelog entries for trivial whitespace changes or for documenting > removals of packages even when it means the changelog is deleted as > well, but for god sake, stop the nonsense about documenting version > removals being useless. that wasnt my point, although it is a good one. the idea that policy exist= s=20 because i disagree with others is bunk. whether it be people complaining t= o=20 other devs to do XYZ or the council makes it official XYZ, there is still a= =20 policy XYZ. =2Dmike --nextPart8000628.YUAPPpRShB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAABAgAGBQJN7pxnAAoJEEFjO5/oN/WB7mkQAJ/irRKBlzKZxy94lUOjULhJ SJcyqRYAgdLO1L7o0wHNJoUnLonhdY9rsxeUxoOL7tWuyFeFpO/swdSsmBRhQ+KS 3l1IgNgvi7TfbQUoa2OpUWG4Dp1ZOlApF3QuoZ2saq3Enp+pJDJk1PINry0NQKEd 8ong170jiAAhLw4zYriN9G/UVkfxesl9+y8+M/yOT/Lffp/z5poA5pF5QjsuErfC kIMjMPSbKQxfEN9V22pcT+SKKEAZHHfVffZxqCJYAcf6DiLXAuBiAfQyOHssoekL 5OtpTUkgAdkSiEwH8yGsQmpF2VU6mE/z5WLR8uV8Czbn9oQtacQCx/7LnTchbp3i njov3QM14ak2ZBIyqCOcU2MDX0WBVQwY7KyYdI9TfJbl0GQ0q59Gi9tTB15yHdYJ sBkVZ5xGEfNqhUXohqqvQX2vNlgwkO+oECAq/GQkXE0ttTjW29fmFjid+XJSEQ51 wOAoENSwOUZeQcAxSeo8LVZtACq6VzRNumoSMtHIzkCC5zaZnh6PEBR7JuMeeieX 2dY6dJLjkqArRt3fkkuNQIAfQjhzMwwT3+zjHsOX97YTBkQCxbeJFNwkpTdgvVh6 YbKMtEKvl24T8ya15HvuYtsvfMD8KRW2sFEzo8mi0rkE4Q4ZI0ekUAWycEAHrDUm Jf0ZuBDv9Z+n1E0Qc6bL =9CQD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --nextPart8000628.YUAPPpRShB--