From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QNLIV-00085Q-Id for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:43:03 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A2F51C096; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:42:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 573841C011 for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:42:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (dhcp33.mittag-leffler.se [130.237.201.163]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: tomka) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2CA421B404C for ; Fri, 20 May 2011 08:42:11 +0000 (UTC) Date: Fri, 20 May 2011 10:40:51 +0200 From: Thomas Kahle To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] More bugzilla restrictions should be applied to normal users Message-ID: <20110520084051.GA5728@denkmatte.mittag-leffler.se> References: <20110512201945.GA15917@Eternity.halls.manchester.ac.uk> <4DCC73E6.2040903@gentoo.org> <20110513101010.GA11219@Eternity.halls.manchester.ac.uk> <4DCD1D10.8050400@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4DCD1D10.8050400@gentoo.org> X-Arbitrary-Number-Of-The-Day: 42 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 8d7d754e7ed11a5f48077cc96324861e --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 11:59 Fri 13 May , Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 >=20 > On 13-05-2011 10:10, Markos Chandras wrote: > > On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 11:57:26PM +0000, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wr= ote: > ... > >> This topic has been raised a few times in the past and as far as I can > >> recall there never was a consensus about it. In any case, as pointed o= ut > >> before, some developers want users to be able to CC them on bugs, at > >> least on some bugs, informed users can have a good idea about the > >> importance and or severity of a bug and in general being more open can > >> provide a more inviting environment for users to look at and or > >> contribute to Gentoo. > > First of all, I said "Ccing Arches". Of course they should be allowed to > > CC anyone, but ccing arches creates too much noise for us and quite a > > lot of them do not understand the purpose of arch alias. >=20 > I failed to notice you were talking about arches, sorry about that. >=20 > >> Finally, whenever a user abuses bugzilla, you can poke bugzilla admins, > >> userrel and a few others to look at and take care of it. Some of us can > >> go as far as locking users accounts - feel free to poke me if that need > >> ever arises. > >> > >>> Regards, > >> > > How is this solution more elegant than the one I proposed? :) >=20 > All I'm saying is that we already have tools to deal with users that > abuse bugzilla and we've used them before when needed. +1 =46rom time to time I see users that CC x86 because they run into a bug on their x86-box. I've never seen a user doing that again after informing them, so no problem here. On the other hand I see a benefit of openness. So +1 for keeping everything as it is. Cheers, Thomas >=20 > > Regards, >=20 > On 13-05-2011 00:39, Francisco Blas Izquierdo Riera (klondike) wrote: > > El 13/05/11 01:57, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto escribi=F3: > >> Finally, whenever a user abuses bugzilla, you can poke bugzilla admins, > >> userrel and a few others to look at and take care of it. Some of us can > >> go as far as locking users accounts - feel free to poke me if that need > >> ever arises. > > I'd just like to add that usually a simple warning when users don't do > > things properly suffices, I recall receiving one from Tommy[D] regarding > > the use of CCing and after that I didn't do evil deeds with it again. > > > > klondike >=20 > Francisco, thank you for mentioning this. > When talking about users abusing bugzilla I was talking about users that > repeatedly have a bad behaviour and that ignore warnings and or requests > from developers. >=20 > - --=20 > Regards, >=20 > Jorge Vicetto (jmbsvicetto) - jmbsvicetto at gentoo dot org > Gentoo- forums / Userrel / Devrel / KDE / Elections / RelEng > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ >=20 > iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJNzR0QAAoJEC8ZTXQF1qEPD0gP/1UXW8nKwZZJbXDo5GNwwWqT > g3WDnTZzoot/1tN/u2ar4fm8mCEFiEY+J3X9jmBeIN/IhOcPduNX4gIenyPWylIp > +179STN5xoRcdQjSCRBWTz5WamnCGMkCX1QqIKDTUQ/N4weA+BOGCBqo3ZLbsYJ6 > Ek/QdhgbheL8o90RUSwalsngCgNk30/53sjVHu48F88N3NbJtdmhvj0pxM16Ds6Q > 6Wyl7m7Y+72W+XIsAytmDHP7f9UaBR4WO8vDvXHHceHkJ8ovHxofm6l1UQ6DsqUh > oPKLTk2D9tD3fZPf0oVYyZWgFdbdx/glz8VRDqzQylhWhyDB/VuetTCEf0IEl61f > BiBQ7Z4wka5TsmBNDIla3xJosZQOfwVvry4javxSRvCbYZntdpEeSsKDTSb4tjt0 > 5dI/evC3sool0oUAuxxOE+sX4a8fpl5qAvIIjXFZhOCDrPaWBQe50VxNMNGOTmu2 > 8sSgz6GmoFFMcizPGxP6PKEzFh4rDmT724ZUZ1tj0vARcyQcpq0jLnBIQFWhq/vh > 7aFArhK+xBA6EIrSm3UUkcBGP+rUVmDo1vs6vl4FeZDY2/epvQGPHR+NLZVliHTE > M9jrwnJuGSFPVjtriYVmTExkRTH/dDYZd5adkOASSvptpH6/5z056r6g4eBpoqmv > Ttutf3QCSGFXseHLFZLq > =3D3hVB > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >=20 --=20 Thomas Kahle http://dev.gentoo.org/~tomka/ --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iJwEAQEIAAYFAk3WKRMACgkQQYXt1pFHaaEhQgQAowuyJ8vZSiVvfYx1LtNhpdYO DKN/WiEOq8PRHzk6URXMrN0guCfT2XgDB9RSu+WJ7dDTDi+f0pKcIML5aMJlcMlV aNrvnXcygmc6Ml8ZcJc07jGeM4qk3xRlIE9tBjgj+6wnH3J5YG8ZaQhlpjXMGR1/ IIrhbmsu06ZHIQsU6lA= =XDnj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z--