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From: Brian Harring <ferringb@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Devmanual text on ChangeLogs
Date: Sun, 1 May 2011 13:43:25 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110501204325.GF23166@hrair> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4DBD22A7.3080500@gentoo.org>

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On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 12:06:47PM +0300, Samuli Suominen wrote:
> ... the time alone if you have to stop on each package to wait for
> echangelog to get done just doubles the amount of time you have to put
> into committing them. That's just not worth the effort.

This argument sucks; if the tool is problematic... fix the tool.  
Simple example, why is is it interactive?

Add a -m <message> option to it; no longer have to watch it, just fire 
the command in a term (or in screen) w/ the message given to it 
already.

Beyond that... I suspect *everyone* would appreciate optimization done 
to echangelog.  From a quick look... seems like it's cvs status, than 
a cvs diff.  Trying to collapse that into a single op, falling back to 
status might not be a bad thing (or parallelizing the requests so the 
slowness of cvs doesn't cause sequentially stack up).

Either way.. fix the tool, rather than just doing the wrong thing.


> So not only they are rather useless, and information you can easily get
> from sources.gentoo.org, they take your time as well.

I think the dial up users would have a real issue with your "easily 
get from sources.g.o" statement- same for users like myself when I'm 
in public transit/flying/working somewhere than work and at home (I 
actually do use those logs when I'm checking depgraph/pcheck issues).

Either way, fix the tool, or prove that the tool can't go any faster, 
and *then* it's a potential discussion.  Right now it really isn't, 
imo.
~brian

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-01 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-30  8:46 [gentoo-dev] Devmanual text on ChangeLogs Petteri Räty
2011-04-30  9:02 ` Samuli Suominen
2011-04-30 12:12   ` Peter Volkov
2011-05-02  2:23     ` Jeroen Roovers
2011-04-30 13:42   ` Markos Chandras
2011-04-30 14:24     ` Brian Harring
2011-04-30 18:16     ` Alex Alexander
2011-04-30 20:39   ` Panagiotis Christopoulos
2011-05-01  9:06     ` Samuli Suominen
2011-05-01 10:09       ` [gentoo-dev] git? [was: Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs] Eray Aslan
2011-05-01 10:54         ` [gentoo-dev] git? Panagiotis Christopoulos
2011-05-01 11:25           ` Andreas K. Huettel
2011-05-01 18:05         ` [gentoo-dev] git? [was: Re: Devmanual text on ChangeLogs] Maciej Mrozowski
2011-05-01 10:34       ` [gentoo-dev] Devmanual text on ChangeLogs Fabian Groffen
2011-05-01 10:44       ` Panagiotis Christopoulos
2011-05-01 11:26         ` Peter Volkov
2011-05-01 11:26       ` Andreas K. Huettel
2011-05-01 20:43       ` Brian Harring [this message]
2011-05-02  2:43         ` Jeroen Roovers
2011-04-30  9:07 ` Ulrich Mueller
2011-04-30 11:21   ` Panagiotis Christopoulos
2011-05-02  2:52     ` Jeroen Roovers
2011-04-30 12:28   ` [gentoo-dev] " Diego Elio Pettenò
2011-04-30 13:05     ` Panagiotis Christopoulos
2011-04-30 13:44       ` "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
2011-04-30 14:00         ` Rich Freeman
2011-04-30  9:57 ` [gentoo-dev] " Pacho Ramos
2011-05-01 10:00 ` Fabian Groffen
2011-05-01 14:55   ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-05-01 15:08     ` Fabian Groffen
2011-05-01 21:08   ` [gentoo-dev] " Markos Chandras
2011-05-01 22:33     ` Brian Harring
2011-05-01 22:49       ` Markos Chandras
2011-05-01 23:23         ` [gentoo-dev] " Duncan
2011-05-01 23:31           ` Brian Harring
2011-05-01 23:43             ` Rich Freeman
2011-05-02  0:13               ` Markos Chandras
2011-05-02  1:15               ` Duncan
2011-05-02  6:48               ` Fabian Groffen
2011-05-02  0:16             ` Markos Chandras
2011-05-02 21:10               ` Arfrever Frehtes Taifersar Arahesis
2011-05-01 23:11     ` Duncan
2011-05-02  0:04     ` [gentoo-dev] " Ulrich Mueller
2011-05-02  0:21       ` Markos Chandras
2011-05-02  1:20       ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-05-02  1:24         ` Robin H. Johnson
2011-05-02  1:37           ` Nirbheek Chauhan
2011-05-02  5:17         ` Ulrich Mueller
2011-05-02  6:51       ` Fabian Groffen
2011-05-02 21:24 ` Gilles Dartiguelongue

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