From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QFznT-0003p0-Ag for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 02:20:39 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF1B01C047; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 02:20:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gy0-f181.google.com (mail-gy0-f181.google.com [209.85.160.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2AFE1C020 for ; Sat, 30 Apr 2011 02:19:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gyh4 with SMTP id 4so1997351gyh.40 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:19:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=u2LsdW/oTqUR0dgpJXE5PXY9r37Nc/n7UTq2zHicPoU=; b=WSYogXIHFigSk9rqA5OgzBHIL9EZzNNHYtaS0ZL8nRI+gq/P446W/MSYYeS8+gNj4z A5adJ7O8qg6ZkKmBvaeY182N1HPFHyQQvU10q9xf75N44k3+oZL3gdp/apEy1H2tMuJX twTrbDNSpBBrAq1tosS+0reMMa2PDW3rg7Lpw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=BTY2OXea9W6i5GtEHt07YQBazuYntFeYlxEM2QkElnjeVB741M0G7XxHwpjd5b4QSl 4LuZExbXsEAkMuv6g0aN5H7VycAFySklGYwCqQ1mzUD/SAuRi2oguLI1OTaQ877/zION 3JW026Q6jK/zLqsD8Qt462PcMN4ogTdHV4LgM= Received: by 10.101.83.5 with SMTP id k5mr3751294anl.132.1304129993980; Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:19:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-183-49-63.tx.res.rr.com [76.183.49.63]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id d20sm3350927ang.43.2011.04.29.19.19.51 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:19:52 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Fri, 29 Apr 2011 21:19:50 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 21:19:50 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] openrc portage news item Message-ID: <20110430021950.GC6032@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <20110413181538.GA2894@linux1> <20110421011221.GA1736@eee> <201104221239.11593.polynomial-c@gentoo.org> <20110429184135.GA20648@hrair> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20110429184135.GA20648@hrair> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: b35855e364628a391cc1f747f6c4e16b --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:41:35AM -0700, Brian Harring wrote: > Exact results please; the pkg_pretend crap proposed elsewhere (which=20 > is yet another way to crap up stage builds) frankly sucks. >=20 > Mind you I'm just looking in, but this whole upgrade process really=20 > reads fairly suboptimal to me. It's definitely possible that this is=20 > the best that can be done, but I'd like to see exactly which issues we=20 > can't resolve in some fashion via pkg_postinst tricks w/in openrc. > > I'd much rather have an ebuild that violates a few rules than forced=20 > "you must accept this beyond normal mechanisms" and potential "can't=20 > boot" upgrade processes. > > So... details please, and why we can't script our way past chunks of=20 > this. :) The biggest part of the migration is running dispatch-conf, etc-update or another configuration file updater and accepting all of the openrc changes. Most of the stuff in the migration guide is just directing you to verify changes that the openrc ebuild has made and telling you which configuration files may need to be altered to match your system. I'm not sure how to script passed any of that. William --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk27ccYACgkQblQW9DDEZTh2agCfUyHNpT4tBbPi8TsKbMumbTiN ypgAn2GUMlIsIIP7N1brcRgO1t+HRnaG =nM0b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --XMCwj5IQnwKtuyBG--