From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QEB4E-00086S-FO for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 01:58:26 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5612A1C03B; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 01:58:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp-vbr19.xs4all.nl (smtp-vbr19.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.39]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43EED1C004 for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 01:57:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from epia.jer-c2.orkz.net (D4B2706A.static.ziggozakelijk.nl [212.178.112.106]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr19.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p3P1vV7u080939 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 25 Apr 2011 03:57:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jer@gentoo.org) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 03:57:30 +0200 From: Jeroen Roovers To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Disabling locale at emerge output Message-ID: <20110425035730.608d531e@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> In-Reply-To: References: <4DB16712.5030302@gentoo.org> <201104221953.36951.dilfridge@gentoo.org> <20110424184853.3312c774@epia.jer-c2.orkz.net> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.9 (GTK+ 2.22.1; i686-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: e670bc1760ab62def372e3b6c0ffcbc7 On Sun, 24 Apr 2011 21:55:13 +0000 (UTC) Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net> wrote: > The odds should be /vastly/ improved. Oh, you want to wrangle bugs too? How fast can you type "Please post your `emerge --info' output too."? :) > 1) FEATURES=locale would be off by default, so portage would build > with POSIX locale by default. We might as well skip the entire FEATURES=locale and simply detect the actual locale instead. Not that I think this would help us, but adding a FEATURE to discourage people from using that very same feature does sound like a bad design to me. In my opinion, what we should do instead is acknowledge the policy that's been in place all along, that is to require build logs with "universally" appreciated error messages, and reinforce that policy using technical means, instead of having asking users nicely every time for something they may not even be aware of. jer