From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QDaeY-0003Vk-D9 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 11:05:30 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 06F761C0AE; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 11:05:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yi0-f53.google.com (mail-yi0-f53.google.com [209.85.218.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89421C076 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 11:04:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yia25 with SMTP id 25so430947yia.40 for ; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 04:04:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id :mail-followup-to:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=SMO1l7PTF2Nc9s4dmjRmrXmgbtKRtmYvHQScIGrbthc=; b=E1WSQKZ7lGK61XSowv9pBlQG3QxDvSUVUu45p/Y04C5QuOvLbUShez4b9NPM0u6COl cv4XrtWjhVEW7c6ThxtJ5Npl32eBtofqwcoq2eqeSHCshaJ/OUSlHtpg/wCRdcNl49vK pZalBFbzPR38iVsIMs/DXWpE35mdNg72noRr4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=sender:date:from:to:subject:message-id:mail-followup-to:references :mime-version:content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to :user-agent; b=OgnE9i0Qm0aUyomshefBg+ntVFTK/vk6SAmGZlRonvVxYnCDmN4Fr4dSuJJovMsSvr hMyIk+kgGH6+9oihO0nOJJ4O3SBYM90APucan/gMCxP0Of8lTBJWYnIHSJG6FF31kiFl s/llYDcPmkh3lNwduJ8EZfu5AUo1RTZGl5siE= Received: by 10.236.195.6 with SMTP id o6mr2105821yhn.318.1303556695655; Sat, 23 Apr 2011 04:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linux1 (cpe-76-183-49-63.tx.res.rr.com [76.183.49.63]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j9sm605129ann.46.2011.04.23.04.04.53 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sat, 23 Apr 2011 04:04:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: William Hubbs Received: by linux1 (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 23 Apr 2011 06:03:43 -0500 Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2011 06:03:43 -0500 From: William Hubbs To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-dev] RDEPENDing on packages from overlays? Message-ID: <20110423110343.GA17456@linux1> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org References: <4DB26C3C.8090602@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-dev@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4DB26C3C.8090602@gentoo.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: cc182fc60ea63fbc1d552c12d131f8d4 --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Apr 23, 2011 at 09:05:48AM +0300, Eray Aslan wrote: > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D364445 > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D364401 >=20 > Basically, there are requests to add packages to RDEPEND in virtual/mda > and virtual/mta that are not in the official tree but in sunrise. >=20 > On one side, *DEPENDing on a package outside the tree doesn't seem > right. Additionally, keeping track of all the overlays and their > package versions, USE flags and flag changes are potentially too much to > track. We will be making changes to a virtual package without testing > whether it works. >=20 > On the other hand, we are making life (unneccesarily?) difficult for > overlay users by not incorporating the requested changes to the official > tree. >=20 > Comments on how to proceed? Is it OK for a virtual to list a package > which is in an overlay in RDEPEND? =20 I would say no for the reasons you list above. I'm not an overlay user, but I'm thinking that an overlay user might be able to get around this by putting the virtual in package.provided. William --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk2ysg8ACgkQblQW9DDEZTjwdQCfb65UB+Xp3wvjiWZH0u/Ykm3K yn0AoJVBcBj0Cv+ieGOpXiHjTNlDpG7u =S7kK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/--